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1977jw Oct 31, 2015 10:05 PM

Do 991's offer bang for your buck?
 
I'm still trying to decide if I should bite the bullet on a leftover 2015 C2S. I'm having a hard time coming to terms the steep price increase on the 991's. When I purchased my 07 C2S 9 years ago, it had 700 miles on it with a sticker of $93k. I purchased it for $80k. Fast forward to now and the 2015 i'm looking at has a sticker $36k higher than my 997. I've got them to come down to $112k for the new car but that's still a pretty steep increase. I realize Porsche can get away with this since there a people willing to pay the freight, but it makes me wonder if the 911 has lost it's bang for the buck. 911's used to be slightly more than M3's which I used to drive, but now you could buy a new M3 or M4 and still have $50k leftover to play with.

Do you feel Porsche has priced the 991 way too high or do you feel there is some value there? How have you justified the steep 991 price?

SilverSled Oct 31, 2015 10:55 PM


Originally Posted by 1977jw (Post 4422187)
I'm still trying to decide if I should bite the bullet on a leftover 2015 C2S. I'm having a hard time coming to terms the steep price increase on the 991's. When I purchased my 07 C2S 9 years ago, it had 700 miles on it with a sticker of $93k. I purchased it for $80k. Fast forward to now and the 2015 i'm looking at has a sticker $36k higher than my 997. I've got them to come down to $112k for the new car but that's still a pretty steep increase. I realize Porsche can get away with this since there a people willing to pay the freight, but it makes me wonder if the 911 has lost it's bang for the buck. 911's used to be slightly more than M3's which I used to drive, but now you could buy a new M3 or M4 and still have $50k leftover to play with. Do you feel Porsche has priced the 991 way too high or do you feel there is some value there? How have you justified the steep 991 price?

Way too high .

Michael_s Nov 1, 2015 06:24 AM

Yes of course... but we still buy them. However, many do not and buy other brands. The M3/4 would be a great car at a great price. But it's not a Porsche. Most of us had a poster of a 911 on our walls as kids.... It's the icon, heritage, prestige and the exclusiveness that is part of the draw.

1977jw Nov 1, 2015 07:15 AM

I agree Michael S, that's the reason I sold the M3's and purchased a 997 911 which i've loved. It's the decision on if I should ditch it and get a 991 that's killing me.

Porschejeff Nov 1, 2015 08:13 AM

Too high that's why you have to buy a preowned one a year or 2 old and save $30K

omegaSMP300 Nov 1, 2015 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by Porschejeff (Post 4422273)
Too high that's why you have to buy a preowned one a year or 2 old and save $30K

In second this. I just bought a 2013 4s cpod for 44k less than msrp. I think I could have done a little bit better but oh well.

There are some new 2014s still available too it looks like. I always aim for the car with the highest msrp possible and go from there. Good luck you'll definitely find something!

Michael_s Nov 1, 2015 10:34 AM

The 2013 CPO cars offer a great value... not first year although not many first year problems. You should be able to be in the 80's for a low mileage car.

stardoc Nov 1, 2015 07:01 PM

Personally I would not buy a new 911 because you can pick up a nearly new one at any time for over $30k less. New 991's are now reaching close to $150k which is insane considering a Mclaren 570 can be picked up for a another 20% more. I've owned 2 911's in the past and they are fantastic cars but I would only buy one used with a few miles on it.

1977jw Nov 1, 2015 07:10 PM

When you guys say 30k less, do you mean off sticker or off what you can typically get discounted?

beemer guy Nov 3, 2015 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by 1977jw (Post 4422187)
Do you feel Porsche has priced the 991 way too high or do you feel there is some value there? How have you justified the steep 991 price?

I feel that it's too high. I too went from a 997 to a 991 and in hindsight, I should have just kept my 996. Or better hindsight, kept the 993.

I could not justify the 991 price and sold mine after a year. Bought a BMW. Actually, I bought two of them, one used 2014 and one new 2016.

Compukidd Nov 3, 2015 01:33 PM

we are all Porsche guys so we cave in no matter what the price.

Green Hornet Nov 8, 2015 03:34 PM

The Porsche is built like a bank vault. In my experience BMW is no where near that level of quality. Part of the price is the freedom from little pita problems.

For what it's worth - I've owned 7 BMWs and this is my 3rd Porsche.

SergePorsche Nov 8, 2015 05:59 PM

The new 991s ARE overpriced, especially if you consider that the dollar has appreciated considerably relative to the Euro. If anything, I would have expected the price of the car to have decreased in US dollar terms.

But here's the situation. A $100 bottle of water would normally be considered over-priced Then again, if the water in that bottle is perfect, and the water that everybody else is selling is somewhat dirty, then you pay the price (if you have the money and really, really, want the water).

If I could find a comparable car for less money, I would buy it, but the problem is I can't find such a car (except maybe a used 991). So I'm a loyal Porsche customer for now. I don't want to pay half the price of a 991 for a car that is 75% of the quality of a 991. I'd rather pay 75% of the price of a 991, for a car that is 100% of the quality of a 991. General Motors, are you listening?

GS997S Nov 9, 2015 06:23 AM

Depends on the woman.

af330i Nov 10, 2015 05:39 PM

I wouldn't say the 911 brand new offers a good bang for the buck at around $120k and up ... It is a very expensive car and the depreciation is pretty big though it is that way with all cars in that price range.

Buying a 3 year old one will get you a decent bang for the buck and I agree with a lot of people here that buying used is a good way to go. I did it that way on my 997 and probably should have done again but when I saw the 991 and heard allocations came out for the manuals back in 2012 I really wanted one.


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