991 w/ manuals - Owners please
#1
991 w/ manuals - Owners please
Since the re-introduction of the manual in 2013 for 911's have the 6speed users generally selected this option ?
Or how many manuals have been sold in the US market ?
I cannot find a reliable statistic of the transmission division. A dealer suggested in 2016 that they were only seeing approx. 35% of the cars coming equipped with the 7-speed. Resales data seems to support this (Porsche Locator).
I sold my 6-speed in 2010 due to the city travel. Manhattan crossings required a hundred shifts due to the traffic.
How many happy manual owners out there ?
Thanks,
Paul
Or how many manuals have been sold in the US market ?
I cannot find a reliable statistic of the transmission division. A dealer suggested in 2016 that they were only seeing approx. 35% of the cars coming equipped with the 7-speed. Resales data seems to support this (Porsche Locator).
I sold my 6-speed in 2010 due to the city travel. Manhattan crossings required a hundred shifts due to the traffic.
How many happy manual owners out there ?
Thanks,
Paul
#3
I have a 7MT. If you listen to my local dealer, 99% of all sales are with PDK. They order ONLY PDK for on the lot. Not sure of the real numbers, as I'm sure many folks will still order to spec with a manual like I did.
#4
Stealthboy: my 3 dealers have less than 10% of their 911 inventory w/ manuals. I think those you actual order their ride may be account for the majority of the manuals.
The issue is as the 991 gets older do the manuals actually command a premium?
I loved rowing my 997.1 but now I live deep is the mountains and the roads are best focused on with hands at 3 and 9 o'clock.
The issue is as the 991 gets older do the manuals actually command a premium?
I loved rowing my 997.1 but now I live deep is the mountains and the roads are best focused on with hands at 3 and 9 o'clock.
#6
Manual with short shifter
2015 C4S manual. Swapped standard shifter for short-shifter setup from GT4. Best stick ever. Super precise, notchy shifting. It like an entirely different car. Highly recommend.
When i shopped the car, i drove a manual and the PDK. Manual way more engaging. PDK was boring quite frankly.
When i shopped the car, i drove a manual and the PDK. Manual way more engaging. PDK was boring quite frankly.
#7
I test drove a 991.2 S manual and loved it . The shifts were buttery smooth and clutch engagement was precise . Pedal feel was beautiful . Porsche has really put some work into improving even the most traditional components .
I bought a PDK 991.2 GTS as it was the first one on my city and I equally love PDK . Two world class units makes either a great choice .
I bought a PDK 991.2 GTS as it was the first one on my city and I equally love PDK . Two world class units makes either a great choice .
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#8
Larry,
good to see you posting again. The gts looks great. Watch out for the troopers !
The fact that you grabbed a gts w/ pdk is interesting and why I started the thread.
The 911 US sales of approx. 9000/year means that fewer than 1800 manuals are out there per year.
I wonder if a premium for the re-sale market for the sticks will develop? Maybe in say five year.
Great motoring to you,
Paul
good to see you posting again. The gts looks great. Watch out for the troopers !
The fact that you grabbed a gts w/ pdk is interesting and why I started the thread.
The 911 US sales of approx. 9000/year means that fewer than 1800 manuals are out there per year.
I wonder if a premium for the re-sale market for the sticks will develop? Maybe in say five year.
Great motoring to you,
Paul
#9
Larry,
good to see you posting again. The gts looks great. Watch out for the troopers !
The fact that you grabbed a gts w/ pdk is interesting and why I started the thread.
The 911 US sales of approx. 9000/year means that fewer than 1800 manuals are out there per year.
I wonder if a premium for the re-sale market for the sticks will develop? Maybe in say five year.
Great motoring to you,
Paul
good to see you posting again. The gts looks great. Watch out for the troopers !
The fact that you grabbed a gts w/ pdk is interesting and why I started the thread.
The 911 US sales of approx. 9000/year means that fewer than 1800 manuals are out there per year.
I wonder if a premium for the re-sale market for the sticks will develop? Maybe in say five year.
Great motoring to you,
Paul
#10
Happy Manual Owner
Since the re-introduction of the manual in 2013 for 911's have the 6speed users generally selected this option ?
Or how many manuals have been sold in the US market ?
I cannot find a reliable statistic of the transmission division. A dealer suggested in 2016 that they were only seeing approx. 35% of the cars coming equipped with the 7-speed. Resales data seems to support this (Porsche Locator).
I sold my 6-speed in 2010 due to the city travel. Manhattan crossings required a hundred shifts due to the traffic.
How many happy manual owners out there ?
Thanks,
Paul
Or how many manuals have been sold in the US market ?
I cannot find a reliable statistic of the transmission division. A dealer suggested in 2016 that they were only seeing approx. 35% of the cars coming equipped with the 7-speed. Resales data seems to support this (Porsche Locator).
I sold my 6-speed in 2010 due to the city travel. Manhattan crossings required a hundred shifts due to the traffic.
How many happy manual owners out there ?
Thanks,
Paul
Another happy manual owner here! Like others have said, the PDK is definitely quicker, but I personally think the manual makes for a better driving experience.
Dave
#11
My 991 C4 was a MT; my GTS is PDK. I think MT is nice and can be loads of fun as long as one does not have to deal with heavy doses of traffic. Last year, I moved from the D.C. Metro area to Los Angeles and so far I have to say that my left foot likes having the PDK out here...I do use the paddles almost 100 percent though.
#13
My 991 C4 was a MT; my GTS is PDK. I think MT is nice and can be loads of fun as long as one does not have to deal with heavy doses of traffic. Last year, I moved from the D.C. Metro area to Los Angeles and so far I have to say that my left foot likes having the PDK out here...I do use the paddles almost 100 percent though.
#14
I recently picked up 2015 991.1 GTS with MT. Although I have only owned the car for a week, I really enjoy the driving experience that the 7 speed manual has to offer. Yes, PDK may be faster but a few tenths of a second doesn't matter to me. I'm not tracking the car. Like you, I too kept future value of the car in mind. I hope that the car does eventually increase or retain its value stronger than most other 991.1 or 991.2 being that it is a MT and NA engine.....time will tell.
#15
So the exact numbers of MT's out on US roads is probably out of reach. GoodCar-BadCar data states that there were approx. 46,000 991's sold in the USA since the introduction in mid-2012, hence 15% is a good guess; 6,900 manuals would be a bit high but there are no records.
And as 'Ynot' offers it is probable that the ability to drive a stick properly is a hindrance and the driver pool is further reduced due to the the scale of the MT's available (excepting the small gt3 & gt3rs users that I am envious of).
I used to love the 6-speed c4 I drove then I found a c4s/pdk and really began to explore complex handling roads. I quickly found I needed to never remove my hand from the wheel (having sand covered mountain roads eight months of the year helps) and focusing on the drifts at the expense of rubber wear.
The normal 911 driver might sit in traffic 30% of the time and wish it wasn't so. I suggest getting to curves and letting loose asap. I enjoy pushing my 911 hard. Hope you all can as well.
PistonHeads put this story out last week :
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/...79854#message1
Enjoy the tarmac ;-)
And as 'Ynot' offers it is probable that the ability to drive a stick properly is a hindrance and the driver pool is further reduced due to the the scale of the MT's available (excepting the small gt3 & gt3rs users that I am envious of).
I used to love the 6-speed c4 I drove then I found a c4s/pdk and really began to explore complex handling roads. I quickly found I needed to never remove my hand from the wheel (having sand covered mountain roads eight months of the year helps) and focusing on the drifts at the expense of rubber wear.
The normal 911 driver might sit in traffic 30% of the time and wish it wasn't so. I suggest getting to curves and letting loose asap. I enjoy pushing my 911 hard. Hope you all can as well.
PistonHeads put this story out last week :
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/...79854#message1
Enjoy the tarmac ;-)