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drspeed 12-04-2017 05:03 PM

rear pads wearing faster than fronts..?
 
I was doing some seasonal maintenance and had the wheels off. I have 13k on the car and I noticed the rear pads are noticeably lower than the fronts. In fact there is more backing than pad in the rear...

The only explanation I could fathom is that traction control might be using up the brakes? I don't have torque vectoring rear axle (which I don't think uses the brakes on the 911 anyway).

On my gen I car and on my 997.2 before that, the pads wore like the tires. You could almost get away with changing the rears ever other brake job...

Just thought I'd share..

DRP

does195 12-04-2017 05:23 PM

Wow. I've got 32K miles on mine. Ready for the 4th set of tires on the rear. Original pads all around. Mine should be good for 50/60K miles. You have PDK? Drive with your left foot on the brake? I've heard of people getting 100K miles on a set of pads.

John McLane 12-04-2017 08:40 PM

That tend to happens due to the PSM braking one of the rear wheels on hard cornering. I only had this happen on cars I tracked, DD normally don’t have the issue, if one drives reasonably normal.

drspeed 12-06-2017 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by John McLane (Post 4683319)
if one drives reasonably normal.

:cool:hilarious

BIGWORM 12-07-2017 02:30 PM

I experienced the same issue in my 17 C2S. My rears went first. I was told its the the TT making up for me. I now drive with TT off or in limited.

Its BS.

drspeed 12-07-2017 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by BIGWORM (Post 4683946)
I experienced the same issue in my 17 C2S. My rears went first. I was told its the the TT making up for me. I now drive with TT off or in limited.

Its BS.

+1. I'm going to try driving in that sport PSM mode that allows a little slip.

With my 991 (base), the car didn't have enough torque to really break the rears loose. It was awesome coming out of slow corners ,like a 90 degree intersection turn, to gas it as your straightening up the wheel and have the rear drift as the tires slipped but didn't really spin. Right on the edge of traction. Great feeling.

Can't do that in the turbo car. Its got way more torque - which is a little harder to dole our accurately with the forced induction. So 99% of the time the traction just stops the rear tires before you get to that perfect limit of adhesion.

Maybe the sport PSM will work some magic. I only have used it in the snow. Seems counterintuitive, but the car is way better with a little movement and a little wheel spin the snow, otherwise the system chokes all forward progress when its super slippery. Mine is not a 4 obviously.

Thanks for the replies.
DRP

Z00mie 05-16-2018 10:06 AM

Same with my 13 C4S PDK. rears almost 50% more worn than fronts at 45K. No track time, no hooves resting on the brake pedal...

2fas4u 05-17-2018 01:45 PM

What he said!
 

Originally Posted by John McLane (Post 4683319)
That tend to happens due to the PSM braking one of the rear wheels on hard cornering. I only had this happen on cars I tracked, DD normally don’t have the issue, if one drives reasonably normal.

Dude you must be doing the corners. Happy motoring... OH the vectoring doesn't come into play when I accelerate through the corners and curves only when I coast through so far as I can tell.

John McLane 05-17-2018 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by 2fas4u (Post 4716199)
Dude you must be doing the corners. Happy motoring... OH the vectoring doesn't come into play when I accelerate through the corners and curves only when I coast through so far as I can tell.

I could blame it on my wife, that shares the car with me at the track, but I'm responsible too.

In normal mode, the PSM intervenes fairly early, but is barely detectable. You only feel it in your wallet later on. I should, but I don't quite coast on curves. I like some "maintenance" acceleration to help with throttle steer.

With PSM sport, one can feel adventurous and then the ABS might need to come to help the PSM, definitely noticeable. The corner workers will make notice too. One can always say you're trying to spare the rear pads, therefore protect the environment.

I'm not turning the PSM off to find out the difference, particularly after tuning the ECU. Allegedly it was to be called "drift mode", but lawyers said nay.

Z00mie 05-19-2018 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by John McLane (Post 4683319)
That tend to happens due to the PSM braking one of the rear wheels on hard cornering. I only had this happen on cars I tracked, DD normally don’t have the issue, if one drives reasonably normal.

Didn't Porsche call it "whizzening" or something!;)


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