996 Turbo / GT2 Turbo discussion on previous model 2000-2005 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo and 911 GT2.

02 GT2 vs. 07 997 TT: Nearly Same Mileage & Price; Which Do You Choose & Why?

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Old May 2, 2009 | 09:04 AM
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gt2 my 01tt was like drivin a bus until i made many changes. now i love it and would be hard pressed to trade for a new 997tt. but saw a red gt car at neillo i would trade for in a heartbeat only prob $199,000 is a little much for my dresser drawer account....
 
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315 total 996 Gt2s in the U.S. I wonder how many are still here?
 
Old May 2, 2009 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by bbywu
HC...How about..."If you are a driver with skill - GT2" (no electronic assistance + average driver = widowmaker.)

When I say driver I think of the guys that will embrace a car that has nasty speed but will challenge you to get it. The 997 TT is a beautiful car, but the 996 GT2 is one of the last pure 911 GT cars with no aids. I think a very different mindset is necessary for each car. I'd have a hard time ragging a 997 TT on the track because I'd be so tempted to put 20's on it. I'd have a hard time putting even 19's on a GT2 because I wouldn't leave the track.

So let me rephrase because I would own either in a hearbeat.

If you plan to drive the car on the track like you stole it- GT2

If you plan to drive it aggressively and still take your wife on dates -997 TT

Same guy could have two completely different purposes for buying the car. No offense intended to anyone.
 
Old May 2, 2009 | 11:40 AM
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Thanks for the input so far guys. Does anyone know this '02 GT2 black on black with 4,200 miles (it is in Houston, TX):

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2002-...1%7C240%3A1318

Also, will a car seat will fit in the back seat of a 997 TT? I have one three year old and sometimes she like to go with me and so does my wife. I have put her car seat in the Viper, but it was a major PITA. They both like riding in the CLS55 and my wife said she would like it if we had another sports car that we could all three ride in together. That would pretty much rule out the GT2, but its not the determoning factor.
 
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Originally Posted by Dr_jitsu
plus one on calling bull**** on the 997 interior being better. The GT2 interior is absolutely splendid.

Its more of a collectable, has rwd and none of the safety devices for pansies and Manginis.

However, the 997 does have an advantage in terms of making more power w/ less mods, better stock fuel system etc. If I wanted the newest most powerful car I would lean towrds the 997. If I was willing to spend the money time and heartache to get exactly the car I wanted and then keep it forever, the GT2.
Com'on, Jitsu...tell me you don't love the chrono-zit:

 
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Originally Posted by BlownVette
Thanks for the input so far guys. Does anyone know this '02 GT2 black on black with 4,200 miles (it is in Houston, TX):

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2002-...1%7C240%3A1318

Also, will a car seat will fit in the back seat of a 997 TT? I have one three year old and sometimes she like to go with me and so does my wife. I have put her car seat in the Viper, but it was a major PITA. They both like riding in the CLS55 and my wife said she would like it if we had another sports car that we could all three ride in together. That would pretty much rule out the GT2, but its not the determoning factor.
When you said the car was in H-town, I nearly closed the thread since most of the highline used specialty dealers are risky to be charitable, and scum to be accurate.

However, RPM is great so no worries....

Since you have a child, that would alter my thinking greatly. What happens to them when the back end comes around on a rainy day? (ask Viper guys). Yes, I've had 2 car seats in the back and can transport 4 in relative comfort (except for the Fabspeed Gen 1 exhaust).
 
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GT2

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If you put 700hp in the 997tt you still can drive it hard on the street.
If you put 700hp in the 996GT2 if you drive it hard on the street you prob kill someone.....

but for race/track use with good skilled driver,GT2 for sure.So ask yourself what you want buddy.
 
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If you're looking for performance, versatility and the latest technology, go for the 997 turbo.
If your going to mostly track the car or it's going to be only used on occasional weekends/garage queen, i would go for the 2.
 
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quite a dillema... cannot go wrong with either choice. That being said, I would pick the gt2 every time. This is the more convincing choice given the mileage you put on the car.

Furthermore, I believe that in the gt2, you are getting a 200K car for (lets call it 90K) vs a 130k turbo (dunno the exact sticker of the car youre looking at) for 90k, but I would imagine that the gt2 wil hold its value at that pricepoint MUCH better than the newer "mass-produced" turbo. Plus, chances are you will not see another on the street, while I see 997TTs everywhere. I can tell you that I would be much more comfortable modding the turbo rather than the gt2 just because I think the car is PERFECT from the factory. The turbo feels a bit "dull" to me (unless modded) while the gt2 feels much more "raw" and "involved" of a feel. Just my opinion.
 
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Gt2.
 
Old May 3, 2009 | 02:03 PM
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Some considerations.... [long yap from old guy]

I have a 6-2. They aren't perfect and they are NOT for everyone. Just because it has a reputation and will probably be THE future Porsche collectible doesn't mean you want to own a GT2... Nor that you will ENJOY the experience more than a 997tt.

The GT2 can be severe. To start with it sits about as low as any stock production car ever sold to the public. [The CGT may be worse.] That means you have to ALWAYS be attentive to driveways, speed bumps, parking bump-stops, etc. After you begin to get used to it you will probably start driving it harder. This car CAN catch you out. When I say this I am not saying a small -ooopps. I am saying there is nothing there but your attentiveness, quick right foot, fast hands... and an understanding off what this car is doing ..and QUICKLY. You... can .... relax and just enjoy it and drive like any other car... but as soon as you start to use any of the cars potential, you BETTER be paying close attention and know what you are doing or you are in for a terrible experience. It is a serious driver's car. The only driver's aid is ABS.

The 997tt is much more driver and passenger friendly. It has every driver's aid to make for performance driving without always having to be on the hard edge of your attentiveness.. and frankly, doesn't require a huge amount of skill to actually USE it. It has a lot more goodies, like sunroof [some people love them], good stereo [compared to the GT2], Navagation, even Tip - etc. NONE of these are on the GT2. They aren't part of the "driving experience" and all add weight. BUT some people really enjoy these and it should be considered.

I suspect you will have to own a GT2 for a very long time to ever see a real appreciation in value. By then the costs of ownership may counter any monies to be gained. Besides, the only way to realize a future profit is to SELL it and that kinda ruins the whole point of this.

You are only going to get a brief impression by driving both. it will help, but I doubt the owner's of either type cars is going to let someone test driving it run it really really hard. I also doubt you are going to be capapble of controlling [at least the GT2] without some seat time. SO, a test drive will only provide a clue. I suspct most of the decision will be you thinking hard about what you really want to do with it in terms of using it. I know you gave a general run down but we don't know how important it is for you to enjoy a great sound system or maybe driving hard on strange roads in the rain/snow or simply cruising about enjoyng the basic experience.

I would NEVER point someone towards a 996 GT2 unless they have either some road racing experience or at least some track experience. Things happen much too quickly and they are very much dependent upon the driver to stay out of trouble. I love the GT2 because it DEMANDS that I be a skilled and attentive driver. I also have a few older 911 hot rods. They all require that traditional Porsche pay-attention-or-die driving style. They are also more rewarding when you do it just right.

The cars are different enough that I have thought it would be fun to find a tt for driving in bad weather on the coastal areas. It can be a LOT of fun with awd and driver's aid to slog hard in terrible weather. We tend to only use our nice Porsches in great weather. This is a shame as most of the cars only show their fantastic capabilities in crappy weather.

Both great cars. But different. Either way you really can't lose. Well built, druable, and fun. Always have a completely independent PPI before you commit and you will by happy.

Good Luck

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John,

Could not have said it any better!
 
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I would sell the covette to buy that GT2 !
 


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