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Old May 5, 2009 | 04:14 PM
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Titan K24/18G - 712rwhp @ 1.48 bar

712rwhp @ 1.48 bar ......In 94 degree heat.

Shipping the car to Puerto Rico for a drag race and finally took a bit of time to get a good tune-up on the car now that we've worked most of the bugs out of the Motec. Our tuner Darin has spent a good bit of time on the dyno and it's really showing. Tony @ EPL has been a huge help as well with suggestions and

We're running C16 gas to keep things safe, but I'm still impressed that the old girl is running so well with over 66k miles on the odometer. We haven't gotten to agressive on the tune yet but will when we can spend more time with the car after arriving home from PR. Track times to come, I'll go get a dyno sheet as well.

Setup :
Stock Engine, never been opened up, 66k miles
-K24/18G
-Second Bosch 044 inline in Fuel Filter spot
-Motec M800 / EPL Motronic ECU
-Tial BOV
-AWE Straightpipes
-Injector dynamics 1,000cc Injectors
-USP Intercoolers
-Titan Motorsports Intake Fenderwell intakes
 

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(RPM pickup wasn't feeling well today, so used speed axis)
 
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Sick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why does the graph drop? did boost drop? or let off? I want a porsche now
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Damn that is insane man!
 
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That's some crazy numbers. Would this be equal to 590 whp on a AW Mustang dyno?
 
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That's some crazy numbers. Would this be equal to 590 whp on a AW Mustang dyno?
I would say it would break 6XXawhp on a mustang dyno.
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Sick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why does the graph drop? did boost drop? or let off? I want a porsche now
Matt
We're using the factory ECU for DBW control, we can use the Motec to control this, however the factory throttle body and pedal would need to be calibrated, if we ever want to replicate this setup for a customer we would have to send these off for calibrations which is something most won't want to do. Factory ECU pulled 15% throttle up top, Tony is re-writing this portion of the factory ECU to remove this fail safe and this will be corrected (the number will likely go higher once we get this corrected.)
 
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Originally Posted by vbmw335
That's some crazy numbers. Would this be equal to 590 whp on a AW Mustang dyno?
Car is RWD now, we currently do not have a Mustang dyno so I'm unsure of what type of number it will put down on that model, judging by other cars I'd saw it's likely low to mid 600s. We'll likely be installing a Mustang AWD dyno at our new location in the coming months in addition to our DynoJet 248 for direct comparisons for those interested.

I'll also add we did quite a few pulls on the car, so the IC's are likely VERY heat-soaked (aside from the 94 degree temperate we had). With more time and much cooler temperatures you can expect much higher numbers with no change to the setup.
 

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Originally Posted by onelove
We're using the factory ECU for DBW control, we can use the Motec to control this, however the factory throttle body and pedal would need to be calibrated, if we ever want to replicate this setup for a customer we would have to send these off for calibrations which is something most won't want to do. Factory ECU pulled 15% throttle up top, Tony is re-writing this portion of the factory ECU to remove this fail safe and this will be corrected (the number will likely go higher once we get this corrected.)
DAMN porsche ecu's are to damn safe! lol, that freaking good power for losing 15% throttle! Cant wait to hear what she runs!
 
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Originally Posted by onelove
Car is RWD now, we currently do not have a Mustang dyno so I'm unsure of what type of number it will put down on that model, judging by other cars I'd saw it's likely low to mid 600s. We'll likely be installing a Mustang AWD dyno at our new location in the coming months in addition to our DynoJet 248 for direct comparisons for those interested.

I'll also add we did quite a few pulls on the car, so the IC's are likely VERY heat-soaked (aside from the 94 degree temperate we had). With more time and much cooler temperatures you can expect much higher numbers with no change to the setup.
Thanks for the information. Its just impressive what EPL and K24/18g can do. Can you also post RPM/HP dyno graphs if you have them?
 

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Originally Posted by vbmw335
Thanks for the information. Its just impressive what EPL and K24/18g can do. Can you also post RPM/HP dyno graphs if you have them?
This is probably as wild a K24/18G can come and should be noted it's a fresh map in the Motec for race gas. Tony has the stock ecu tunes dead on and makes killer power for the street cars in a potent kit form. For the money it's rough to beat the gains/ dollar that the Titan/EPL tuned setup offer. This setup is more of a custom deal but if anything it will show what the 18Gs can do at thier best. The RPM pickup wasn't getting a proper signal today an we ran out of time,well get it repaired and make some pulls when the car returns, simply out of time this go around.
 
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Wes that's great to show how much a hybrid k-24 could possibly do but really you dont want to run that kind of boost and hp with stock internals very much do you?

I run my car on race gas at the track and keep the boost at 1.0bar. have an enduro and two sprint races and if I ran that kinda boost wouldnt last the weekend!!

congrats on demonstrating the potential of the car and your mad skills!!
 
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Originally Posted by onelove
712rwhp @ 1.48 bar ......In 94 degree heat.

Shipping the car to Puerto Rico for a drag race and finally took a bit of time to get a good tune-up on the car now that we've worked most of the bugs out of the Motec. Our tuner Darin has spent a good bit of time on the dyno and it's really showing. Tony @ EPL has been a huge help as well with suggestions and

We're running C16 gas to keep things safe, but I'm still impressed that the old girl is running so well with over 66k miles on the odometer. We haven't gotten to agressive on the tune yet but will when we can spend more time with the car after arriving home from PR. Track times to come, I'll go get a dyno sheet as well.

Setup :
Stock Engine, never been opened up, 66k miles
-K24/18G
-Second Bosch 044 inline in Fuel Filter spot
-Motec M800 / EPL Motronic ECU
-Tial BOV
-AWE Straightpipes
-Injector dynamics 1,000cc Injectors
-USP Intercoolers
-Titan Motorsports Intake Fenderwell intakes
Have you guys checked to see what this setup makes on pump? Or do you care? We've been trying to maximize my 18G's on pump.
 
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Have you guys checked to see what this setup makes on pump? Or do you care? We've been trying to maximize my 18G's on pump.
Don't really do much with pump around here to be honest, just habbit I guess. Also don't use meth injection much, no particular reason other than we usually have 20-30 pails of c16 in stock.
 
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