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Old Jun 25, 2015 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by BLKMGK
Is that a momentary switch? That's what I'd want I think, someplace to the right so I can turn key with left. Honestly pondering this myself now!
It's not momentary, no. I pondered a momentary somewhere on the right side, but decided against that because my right hand always gravitates to waggling the stick to make sure it's not in gear.

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Old Jun 26, 2015 | 05:59 AM
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man this is a great mod. i get in the car, without any thought at all and autonomically i merely reach for the shifter to ensure neutral and turn key and there you are. just like every other manual I've been driving for the last 50 years!

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Old Jun 26, 2015 | 07:59 AM
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It is also a nice security feature if you put in a toggle switch instead of hard wiring.

At my first autocross event I could not start my 987.2 boxster right before my run.
Finally I got the car started and had to leave the car on all day.
When I got home I removed that clutch/start switch for good.
The switch was replaced the week before at the dealer under warranty.

When I bought my 996T I put in the same toggle switch as a pre-caution.
 
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The no-clutch at startup is great. Why all the fuss about forgetting if you left the car in gear? If you mash on the brake pedal during startup the car isn't going anywhere even if you left it in gear.
Of course, disregard if you let someone else drive your car.
 
Old Jun 26, 2015 | 07:03 PM
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^ i genuinely think it's a generational thing. for those that grew up and drove vw bugs at 10 yrs old this mod is so obviously an improvement and there IS no downside.
 
Old Jun 27, 2015 | 03:00 PM
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starting car without using clutch

I haven't read in detail this thread but I can code it out in the Ecu when I do tunes for clients. Not sure if anyone brought it up but just throwing it out there.
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Cool you can do that, Markski.

Do you know if the ECU uses different map is when this switch is activated/circuit is completed? That possibility was brought up earlier I think in reference to some racing bikes.

Back to the software bypass... when the workaround is as easy hand-removing two female cable crimps and sticking a spare fuse between them, it's probably easier for people to try it for themselves before getting their tuners involved in case they want to revert for whatever reason. It's a 60-second mod (the fuse method, not the way I did it).

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Originally Posted by Vendetta
Cool you can do that, Markski.

Do you know if the ECU uses different map is when this switch is activated/circuit is completed? That possibility was brought up earlier I think in reference to some racing bikes.

Back to the software bypass... when the workaround is as easy hand-removing two female cable crimps and sticking a spare fuse between them, it's probably easier for people to try it for themselves before getting their tuners involved in case they want to revert for whatever reason. It's a 60-second mod (the fuse method, not the way I did it).

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I understand. I just wanted to throw it out there. Those who ask for it get it from me when it's tuned.
 
Old Jun 27, 2015 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MARKSKI@911tuning
I understand. I just wanted to throw it out there. Those who ask for it get it from me when it's tuned.
Sweet.

Any word on the map? I admit, one of the reasons I used a switch instead of the full-time fuse was in case the ECU treats on/off scenarios differently.

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[QUOTE=Vendetta;4362653]Sweet.

Any word on the map? I admit, one of the reasons I used a switch instead of the full-time fuse was in case the ECU treats on/off scenarios differently.

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I simply change one value and you start the car without the clutch. That simple. I haven't messed with the hardware like you guys therefore can't tell you what will happen under all conditions.
 
Old Jul 10, 2015 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by '02996ttx50
thats a hat trick. nice.
Cleaning off my desktop and stumbled on these pics which I realized I never shared. So here they are in case anyone else here wants to do it this way.

The switch I used is from "Keep it Clean,"
purchased on Amazon purchased on Amazon
. I razored off the "faceplate" and replaced it with the dash trim cover plate to the left of the headlamp controls.












I'll get a pic or two of it installed tomorrow in the daylight.
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^ again... nice! dont think i'll go to any added effort but that is the way to go.
 
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I went a little simpler... I just ran wires to the clutch switch. If someone else drives the car, they just start the "normal way". I can do: brake, neutral, turn key, push button.




 
Old Jul 12, 2015 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Vendetta
I'll get a pic or two of it installed tomorrow in the daylight.
Just 'cause I said I would...





Over & out,
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