2002 Suspension Upgrade - what would you do?
#1
2002 Suspension Upgrade - what would you do?
Well, I finally pulled the trigger on some Bilstein PSS10's coilovers. I am thinking of upgrading the swaybars to H&R as well. The car spends 99% of its time on the street, albeit spirited driving. What additional mods would the board suggest? I don't really want to lower the car and I run stock rims/tire widths.
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#3
Why not lower the car? Handling will be improved as will the overall look. If you are really going to only use it on the street I would not bother with changing the sway bars. The handling will be much improved but the ride will be a little rougher depending on how you set the ***** on the shocks. Don't forget to get a good four wheel alignment too.
#6
You should also consider rear adjustable control arms (dogbones) and rear toe steer link. Depending on how far you lower the car, you may end up with too much rear camber and toe which the stock eccentrics cannot compensate for. The tarret drop links do make a little noise compared to the rubber ends of the stock links.
#7
good stuff guys
so in addition to the PSS10's, I am going with Tarret front and rear anti sway bars and drop links.
I made the comment on the lowering due to some of the rough roads around here, don't want to be bottoming out and ripping off stuff from underneath. Some lowering is acceptable.... I will be doing the 4 corner alignment and changing to a new set of Michelin PS2's as well. Anything else I should be considering?
so in addition to the PSS10's, I am going with Tarret front and rear anti sway bars and drop links.
I made the comment on the lowering due to some of the rough roads around here, don't want to be bottoming out and ripping off stuff from underneath. Some lowering is acceptable.... I will be doing the 4 corner alignment and changing to a new set of Michelin PS2's as well. Anything else I should be considering?
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#9
good stuff guys
so in addition to the PSS10's, I am going with Tarret front and rear anti sway bars and drop links.
I made the comment on the lowering due to some of the rough roads around here, don't want to be bottoming out and ripping off stuff from underneath. Some lowering is acceptable.... I will be doing the 4 corner alignment and changing to a new set of Michelin PS2's as well. Anything else I should be considering?
so in addition to the PSS10's, I am going with Tarret front and rear anti sway bars and drop links.
I made the comment on the lowering due to some of the rough roads around here, don't want to be bottoming out and ripping off stuff from underneath. Some lowering is acceptable.... I will be doing the 4 corner alignment and changing to a new set of Michelin PS2's as well. Anything else I should be considering?
Last edited by Duane996tt; 12-31-2009 at 12:18 AM.
#10
This is actually not 100% accurate. My car has PSS9s and with the stock rear suspension we were able to pull as much or as little camber as we needed (up to -2.2) on a GT2 ride height (my car is an 01TT). In order to get to my track settings of -3.0 front and -2.5 rear, you'd need dogbones and GT3 lower control arms, along with other useful stuff. But for an agressive street alignment, he shouldn't need it, even at GT2 ride heights.
Also, knowing what I now know about how soft the driveline bushings are. I'm not sure I wouldn't put upgraded tranny and motor mounts on the list AHEAD of suspension upgrades.
I'm with heavyChevy on this one... I'd do the PS10s, some HR Swaybars with upgraded HEIM JOINT style drop links and a good alignment.
Make sure you get the car set up properly. A good suspension guy is worth his weight. I personally recommend getting a car scaled, but some will chime in and say "It's a street car, don't worry about it". Scaling the car will allow the suspension engineer the ability to equalize the static load right to left on each axle/end of the car. Ride height is only a part of the equation. Getting someone in your area experienced with 996s is great, and if they have TT experience, even better. We are using Michelin PS RIBs and I've had great luck running more aggressive alignment with the car... I'm able to run -1.5 camber up front and -2.0 on the rear with stock caster, along with toe recommended by your shop. I run zero toe on my setup, but it's "twitchy" and "nervous" feeling for some. Some toe is a good thing for street only driving.
Call it done after that, unless you plan to track it. Then if you do, still, don't do anything beyond good rubber until you're an intermediate to advanced student...Then we can give you a whole list of ways to spend your money!
Mike
Also, knowing what I now know about how soft the driveline bushings are. I'm not sure I wouldn't put upgraded tranny and motor mounts on the list AHEAD of suspension upgrades.
I'm with heavyChevy on this one... I'd do the PS10s, some HR Swaybars with upgraded HEIM JOINT style drop links and a good alignment.
Make sure you get the car set up properly. A good suspension guy is worth his weight. I personally recommend getting a car scaled, but some will chime in and say "It's a street car, don't worry about it". Scaling the car will allow the suspension engineer the ability to equalize the static load right to left on each axle/end of the car. Ride height is only a part of the equation. Getting someone in your area experienced with 996s is great, and if they have TT experience, even better. We are using Michelin PS RIBs and I've had great luck running more aggressive alignment with the car... I'm able to run -1.5 camber up front and -2.0 on the rear with stock caster, along with toe recommended by your shop. I run zero toe on my setup, but it's "twitchy" and "nervous" feeling for some. Some toe is a good thing for street only driving.
Call it done after that, unless you plan to track it. Then if you do, still, don't do anything beyond good rubber until you're an intermediate to advanced student...Then we can give you a whole list of ways to spend your money!
Mike
You should also consider rear adjustable control arms (dogbones) and rear toe steer link. Depending on how far you lower the car, you may end up with too much rear camber and toe which the stock eccentrics cannot compensate for. The tarret drop links do make a little noise compared to the rubber ends of the stock links.
Last edited by Mikelly; 12-31-2009 at 05:06 AM.
#12
I already have the FVD version of the pss9 but stock sway bars, going to after market sways going to make a noticable difference to my car? just for street use..
thanks
thanks
#15
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