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#46
03-29-2005, 12:32 AM
Originally posted by quartermile
It's got 500hp and sequential gearbox but slower in quartermile times. It can't beat anyting in it's class on the track...
It's got 500hp and sequential gearbox but slower in quartermile times. It can't beat anyting in it's class on the track...
#47
03-29-2005, 12:33 AM
Originally posted by quartermile
The Gallardo is in principle the ultimate concept (Italian design with German reliability) but in reality a work in progress. The performance just isn't there. It's made out of Aluminum but weighs more that a 360 or GT3. It's got 500hp and sequential gearbox but slower in quartermile times. It can't beat anyting in it's class on the track and it can't be modded. It looks better than any Porsche (probably the only reason it sells at all) but not nearly as good looking as a Diablo and Murcielago IMO. Still a bargain compared to a Ford GT even comparing at MSRP.
Give Gallardo a Diablo tail (with a real wing) bump up power to 600hp, ditch the AWD BS and it would be the hottest thing in the market.
The Gallardo is in principle the ultimate concept (Italian design with German reliability) but in reality a work in progress. The performance just isn't there. It's made out of Aluminum but weighs more that a 360 or GT3. It's got 500hp and sequential gearbox but slower in quartermile times. It can't beat anyting in it's class on the track and it can't be modded. It looks better than any Porsche (probably the only reason it sells at all) but not nearly as good looking as a Diablo and Murcielago IMO. Still a bargain compared to a Ford GT even comparing at MSRP.
Give Gallardo a Diablo tail (with a real wing) bump up power to 600hp, ditch the AWD BS and it would be the hottest thing in the market.
It cant beat anything in its class? Like what? A 360? Destroys it. 360CS..destroys it. Gt3? Dpends which magazine you read, and in acceleration the Gallardo is faster.
It cant be modded? There is a guy doing a Twin Turbo conversion as we speak.
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03-29-2005, 12:43 AM
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Ive owned both...
Agree that TT is more fun cause you can easily add 150HP...
Out of the box, the suspension on the G is soooo much better...
Besides, Porsche overproduced the 996TT way too much that there is one on every block...When I pay over 100K for a car I require some uniqueness (my last TT was 160K!!)
Even in Dubai, which is full of MAJOR ballers, you see 360s and even 430s nowadays all too ften...Lambos are much rarer and turn head and make people smile
I always see camphones snapping up my car and people chasing me with video cams LOL
The Gallardo is far from a mistake (other than maybe the interior)
Agree that TT is more fun cause you can easily add 150HP...
Out of the box, the suspension on the G is soooo much better...
Besides, Porsche overproduced the 996TT way too much that there is one on every block...When I pay over 100K for a car I require some uniqueness (my last TT was 160K!!)
Even in Dubai, which is full of MAJOR ballers, you see 360s and even 430s nowadays all too ften...Lambos are much rarer and turn head and make people smile
I always see camphones snapping up my car and people chasing me with video cams LOL
The Gallardo is far from a mistake (other than maybe the interior)
#49
03-29-2005, 01:03 AM
Originally posted by allanlambo
It cant beat anything in its class? Like what? A 360? Destroys it. 360CS..destroys it. Gt3? Dpends which magazine you read, and in acceleration the Gallardo is faster.
It cant be modded? There is a guy doing a Twin Turbo conversion as we speak.
It cant beat anything in its class? Like what? A 360? Destroys it. 360CS..destroys it. Gt3? Dpends which magazine you read, and in acceleration the Gallardo is faster.
It cant be modded? There is a guy doing a Twin Turbo conversion as we speak.
BTW I am not bashing Lambos, I think they are great.
#50
03-29-2005, 02:17 AM
Quartermile, i know you arent bashing Lambos, but fact remains, the Gallardo is SUBSTANTIALLY quicker than a 360CS in acceleration, it is faster than the Gt3, inmo, it looks much better than both. On the ring, and Hockenheim, it posted much better numbers than the 360Cs. I know the Gt3 RS was quicker, but i dont know the differences between the RS and regular Gt3. Regardless inmo, in that catagory of cars, if i need something more daily driveable, but yet exciting, the Gallardo gets my vote. But for purposes, id rather have a Murcielago.
#51
03-29-2005, 04:57 AM
Lambo, just like Bentley and A-M decided they needed a "lower" price car to compete. They decided on that number and then built a car to suit with plenty of profit built in. It cracks me up when I read articles comparing the new AM V8 to a Porsche, since the AM will cost twice what the Porsche does. The Gallardo went flat quick because it's not real Lambo excitement. Polarizing looks, decent performance but not for the money and no matter how hard they try, cheaper Lambo's will never have the pedigree of a Ferrari. Maybe if they go out and win some races or something. Give me the sumptous curves of a 360 or 430 over the Robo-cop looks of the Gallardo any day. Lambo's are supposed to be about wild and super-exotic and the Gallardo just isn't. And yes, the Carrera GT was a mistake from a business perspective. A great car but too many and too much.
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03-29-2005, 06:34 AM
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Originally posted by msindi
Ive owned both...
Besides, Porsche overproduced the 996TT way too much that there is one on every block...When I pay over 100K for a car I require some uniqueness (my last TT was 160K!!)
Even in Dubai, which is full of MAJOR ballers, you see 360s and even 430s nowadays all too ften...Lambos are much rarer and turn head and make people smile
I always see camphones snapping up my car and people chasing me with video cams LOL
Ive owned both...
Besides, Porsche overproduced the 996TT way too much that there is one on every block...When I pay over 100K for a car I require some uniqueness (my last TT was 160K!!)
Even in Dubai, which is full of MAJOR ballers, you see 360s and even 430s nowadays all too ften...Lambos are much rarer and turn head and make people smile
I always see camphones snapping up my car and people chasing me with video cams LOL
If it brings driving enjoyment and a smile to MY FACE.. then who cares about the rest.... I would rather not have every AHole googling over my car anyway.
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03-29-2005, 07:34 AM
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Yes but look at what overproduction does to reslae....Someone just posted auction resulkts - an 03 with low miles (5K) selling for less than a new 997S is quite sad
#54
03-29-2005, 07:35 AM
Originally posted by DEETZ
I prefer to have a stock G than TT with 40k upgrade. More chicks prefer the G so you know whats on my mind...
I prefer to have a stock G than TT with 40k upgrade. More chicks prefer the G so you know whats on my mind...
We each have our priorities, I am married with 4 kids so it is not about the chicks for me!
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03-29-2005, 07:38 AM
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Originally posted by msindi
Yes but look at what overproduction does to reslae....Someone just posted auction resulkts - an 03 with low miles (5K) selling for less than a new 997S is quite sad
Yes but look at what overproduction does to reslae....Someone just posted auction resulkts - an 03 with low miles (5K) selling for less than a new 997S is quite sad
Look at the depreciation on a 1st model year Gallardo. Wait to see what these bring after the 5th model year is released, that would be a fair comparison....
Get ready to bend over and have a tube of KY ready...
#57
03-29-2005, 12:16 PM
the Gallardo is SUBSTANTIALLY quicker than a 360CS in acceleration, it is faster than the Gt3, inmo, it looks much better than both. On the ring, and Hockenheim, it posted much better numbers than the 360Cs. I know the Gt3 RS was quicker, but i dont know the differences between the RS and regular Gt3. [/B]
#58
03-29-2005, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by quartermile
One problem with US 360 CS is that it doesn't actually weigh 2800lbs like Ferrari claims ... try 3050!! So for sure the Gallardo will accelerate SUBSTANTIALLY quicker if it really weighs 3150, but all the numbers suggest otherwise. My guess is it is closer to 3400lbs. You can have a GT3 that weighs 700lbs less .. ala GT3 RS.
One problem with US 360 CS is that it doesn't actually weigh 2800lbs like Ferrari claims ... try 3050!! So for sure the Gallardo will accelerate SUBSTANTIALLY quicker if it really weighs 3150, but all the numbers suggest otherwise. My guess is it is closer to 3400lbs. You can have a GT3 that weighs 700lbs less .. ala GT3 RS.
#59
03-29-2005, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by buddyg
Well,
We each have our priorities, I am married with 4 kids so it is not about the chicks for me!
Well,
We each have our priorities, I am married with 4 kids so it is not about the chicks for me!
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03-29-2005, 12:42 PM
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Is Motorweek smoking crack? I saw an episode from a few weeks ago and they tested an e-gear Gallardo and got a 0-60 time of only 5.1 secs. I thought it was crap but they made a point of mentioning it over and over again. They said the car rockets after that...but that time seems way to slow for that much power.