6speedonline's official 1/4 Mile, 60-130, 100-150 and Standing Mile thread
#617
12-14-2012, 10:22 AM
#618
12-14-2012, 11:46 AM
Any of the vBox products by Race Logic will do it. It all depends on your wants and needs, If you only care about simple acceleration tests, like 60-130, 100-150, etc., then the Performance Box "PBox" will do it for approximately $600. If you do some serious tracking or want to get serious about data logging your car, then there are other models that go up in price from there.
After the PBox, I probably wouldn't consider anything in between until the PBox-Pro with 32 CAN channels: ~$2000. This model will connect to the CAN bus in your car and can do some serious data logging while you drive, in addition to the normal PBox (vBox) functions. By being connected to the CAN bus in your car, you can monitor all of the vitals of the car while you drive. All of the data is put in the vBox file, and with the vBoxTools software, you can print graphs and display the results. You can also export the data to TrackVision, and with a little time and effort in conjunction with a GoPro-HD, create videos like that that show how your car performed. All of the gauges shown in the video below are captured by reading the data on the car's CAN bus. So this is the real data as the car was running. The video below is captured using two GoPro-HD's, and a vBox with CAN bus connection. The gauges were created and rendered with TrackVision.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSRe3D5MnoA
Next up in price is the Video VBox ~ ~$3000-4000. This unit comes with cameras and will render the gauges on the video as you're driving. For another $500-$800, you can get the CAN bus option and connect to the car's computer. The downside: It's not HD video; only low-def video. Race Logic is working on a Video VBox-HD that will be introduced in the next year or so. I'm guessing it will still be in the $3k-$4k range. I own the Video VBox Pro, two cameras. Here's a sample video to show what it can do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H6z3jtpt4A
There's also other units made by other companies -- like the AIM-Solo. AIM-Solo is great for track use, and has a great price, but it sucks for doing anything like 60-130's. Getting a 60-130 out of it is a lot of work because you have to export the files to Excel, then basically hand-craft your own vBox-compatible files out of them. Don't try to use your cell phone or any cheap-o device with a low sampling rate. The best GPS in your cell phone is only 5Hz sampling rate, and at least 10Hz is required for these types of tests.
Anyways, good luck with your options.
After the PBox, I probably wouldn't consider anything in between until the PBox-Pro with 32 CAN channels: ~$2000. This model will connect to the CAN bus in your car and can do some serious data logging while you drive, in addition to the normal PBox (vBox) functions. By being connected to the CAN bus in your car, you can monitor all of the vitals of the car while you drive. All of the data is put in the vBox file, and with the vBoxTools software, you can print graphs and display the results. You can also export the data to TrackVision, and with a little time and effort in conjunction with a GoPro-HD, create videos like that that show how your car performed. All of the gauges shown in the video below are captured by reading the data on the car's CAN bus. So this is the real data as the car was running. The video below is captured using two GoPro-HD's, and a vBox with CAN bus connection. The gauges were created and rendered with TrackVision.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSRe3D5MnoA
Next up in price is the Video VBox ~ ~$3000-4000. This unit comes with cameras and will render the gauges on the video as you're driving. For another $500-$800, you can get the CAN bus option and connect to the car's computer. The downside: It's not HD video; only low-def video. Race Logic is working on a Video VBox-HD that will be introduced in the next year or so. I'm guessing it will still be in the $3k-$4k range. I own the Video VBox Pro, two cameras. Here's a sample video to show what it can do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H6z3jtpt4A
There's also other units made by other companies -- like the AIM-Solo. AIM-Solo is great for track use, and has a great price, but it sucks for doing anything like 60-130's. Getting a 60-130 out of it is a lot of work because you have to export the files to Excel, then basically hand-craft your own vBox-compatible files out of them. Don't try to use your cell phone or any cheap-o device with a low sampling rate. The best GPS in your cell phone is only 5Hz sampling rate, and at least 10Hz is required for these types of tests.
Anyways, good luck with your options.
#619
12-14-2012, 12:50 PM
Is Brian Sherwood the fastest stock 997tt w/ that 10.95?
#620
12-14-2012, 01:49 PM
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#622
12-14-2012, 06:30 PM
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#624
12-15-2012, 05:31 PM
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#627
12-27-2012, 11:39 PM
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Guys,
Member Easy2speed has posted a new run in his GT-R. He is running on stock turbos and light mods using E85. His new time is 6.57s, an improvement over his previous 6.69s.
Congrats Daniel!!
Member Easy2speed has posted a new run in his GT-R. He is running on stock turbos and light mods using E85. His new time is 6.57s, an improvement over his previous 6.69s.
Congrats Daniel!!
#628
01-10-2013, 06:10 PM
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Guys,
Member FlyingGuy has provided us with some good data today. He has a friend with a Carrera GT that got a PBox 60-130 file. The car has an aftermarket exhaust as the only mod. It ran a 6.87s 60-130 on a -1.5% slope.
Thanks for the file Tony!! I bet the car sounds great!!
Member FlyingGuy has provided us with some good data today. He has a friend with a Carrera GT that got a PBox 60-130 file. The car has an aftermarket exhaust as the only mod. It ran a 6.87s 60-130 on a -1.5% slope.
Thanks for the file Tony!! I bet the car sounds great!!
#629
01-10-2013, 06:56 PM
Thanks Mike. And the car is amazing in every way. I thought my 996tt had its hands full with his modded 458. now with THIS car... jeez! i have some catching up to do! Thanks again for verification and keep an eye out for more runs from his car and mine!
