Is this right? 335i vs Porsche 996 GT2
Just curious, but can a 335i stage 3 really outrun a GT2 like that?
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Even if it is true, I'd still want the gt2. 335i blah, run of the mill car. I saw an episode of hot rod tv where they raced a chevette against a corvette. The chevette kicked its ass but they also installed a 400 big block that they got out of a scrap yard. would you own the chevette? Probably not.
Can't beat the look of a gt2. Unless its an aventador, but maybe that's to much attention:) |
I wouldn't be surprised if the gt2 were stock vs a modded x35i. My 135i was nuts. A tuned gt2 would be a different story.
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Owning both of them and racing many others that will be very hard to believe.
When I was stock I raced some stage3+meth 335i coupe and limo and after 110mph I was pulling slowly 2-3 cars to 150-160 mph. This kind of races start from 50 mph to 150 mph. Ok, let's consider that the 335i pushed the limits a bit, normally 8 psi stock, modded is like 10-12 psi, and stage3+meth street setup like 16 psi even 17 psi, There are some guys running on race gas + meth and pushing timing to 18 or even 19-20 psi. There were some engine failures at@20psi pressure but... I raced against a 17 psi car stage 3+meth no WR 95 octane, cold weather, no traction problems for any of us. I own a convertible with some weigh reduction, around 300 lbs over coupe/limo but also upgraded turbos that put down 25 mustang rwhp more @ only 18 psi. These turbos allow me to run more boost compared to tiny stock mitsubishi td03 turbos, on race gas I was even with the coupe/limo guys with 25 rwhp less. 335i is another kind of animal, looks more like a NA car, stars pulling from 2K rpm range but dies quickly on top. So that is possible, but very very very hard to achieve for 335i, after tune+exhaust & 5 bar I crashed them all from the very beginning. |
i realy dont know what mods done at this 335i ...but to outrun a stock gt2 like this video show, it was to quiet and smooth in this 335i....may be driving skill was the reason
and be shure if a 335i is able to outrun a gt2 you have to pay more as you like....and you need a lot magic for traction at the 335i |
stage3 for 335i means
down pipes 3" or 2.5" cat less - 300$ to 700$ exhaust - 0$ to 2500$ (not really required) intake - air filter 100$, Intercooler upgrade 300-1000$, charge pipe for meth 100$ TUNE - piggy most of them or flash > 500$ add meth (300-700$) to this and you have a more or at least 350 whp (mustang) car. best 1/4 for a stock turbo 335i is like 11.5 @ 125 (aprox) but with lower 60ft than we use to see for 996tt, 1.6-1.7xx as 60-130 there is a 6.95 on NOS, stock turbos, stage 3 + meth. another 7.5-8s for upgraded turbos, but as far as stock turbos we can see low 9s with some weight reduction, and that is faster I think than gt2's 60-130. But to get that will need to push the limits a lot as i told you. Normal 60-130 for stage3 is 10-10.5s, do the math, I dont know stock gt2 time. As traction, 335i turbos don't hit like gt2 they are smooth that's why on good grip roads and good tires ( some are using 275/285 on rears), there are no major problems, most of stage3 guys are installing also LSD. 335i coupe/limo weight is 1600-1650 KG so GT2 has some weight advantage too beside some hp. Torque curve is at same levels starting very low, this might be 335i advantage |
Add NOX, overdrive the supercharger, bigger intercooler, meth cooling, 100 octane VR with the proper tune and a Mini Cooper Werks S will outrun just about anything stock. Any comparison is meaningless highly modified vs stock. The big issue is that a highly modded motor pushed to the limit will not stay together long.
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Not so sure thats a GT2......I see red brake calipers.
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No chance for 335i stage III vs GT2 rolling run. I don't care whats done to it, sorry to sound obnoxious.
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who cares, anything can be made fast. nobody in there right mind would take a 335i over a gt2
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Originally Posted by Christian
(Post 3402102)
who cares, anything can be made fast. nobody in there right mind would take a 335i over a gt2
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Originally Posted by LiNks
(Post 3402100)
No chance for 335i stage III vs GT2 rolling run. I don't care whats done to it, sorry to sound obnoxious.
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I had a 335xi for three years. They are fast, but pretty benign to drive. Mine was stock and it was no where near my stock tt. I can't imagine that it would be that fast on a roll with a GT2. Heck even the modded ones are lucky to trap at the same speed as a stock GT2. I call BS on the run.
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That is a turbo with gt2 styling. It is NOT a GT2
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I think that vid has a problem........the "GT2" should had put reverse and pull backward so in that way that vid would be amazing hilarioushilarious
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