you dont need to run race gas to run them, but you are also not making 700whp he was talking about at the boost you are running. i'd say you need something more then pump to hit 700whp or more.

i ran Alpha3076 at 1.55bar on 93/meth -700whp
then i ran them at 2.0bar on E85 out of the pump - 800whp

i have seen Alphas make 860rwhp on 2.0-2.1bar using C16 on a 3.8L motor. this was AWD build car in Florida.

numbers i quoted are on a normal Dynojet dyno, no magic 1000rwhp hub dyno figures.

 

Gotya, I'm making about 650hp so that makes sense.

 

Blouch told me over the phone that they won't even quote an outside person a price unless they go through EPL or Protomotive to get the upgrade. Apparently they have a agreement with Proto & EPL "only" for the "g" upgrades.

 

I sent Blouch some 24/18's to upgrade & Todd from Protomotive instructed Blouch what to do to the 20g's. That upgrade was $2350 for both.

 

Paulie are you running 24/20's right now?

 

Yes......

 

Thanks Paulie, you would be the best source for this thread then as you are the person who has them on and is running them.

 

24/20's billet,clipped turbines, mafless tune,etc,etc.

 

and lead on BHT in a race

 

2350$ With Proto markup?

Greg (greekc6) bought my K24s from me a year ago and we sent them out to Blouch direct and they were made into billet 18G-XTs with 1bar wastegates for 1400$ and change for the pair. At that time the 20G upgrade was the same price. Now turbine clips and porting (sometimes referred to as "special magic" here) are extra 100-150$ I believe. Blouch is only a 2hr drive from me and I've actually been to their shop and met Mike (the man behind the creations). I considered an 18G-XT on my car but passed on it.

 

Wow..That does not sound right?

 

What part of what they related to me doesn't sound right?

 

Not selling them to you directly...
A few of my PCA friends got theres straight from them this year...And I have talked to them about doing an upgrade to them at some time and Mike did not tell me that..

 

What can I say, Mike is the one I spoke to matter of fact, he stated that if I wanted to do the 18/20g upgrade, i'd need to go through EPL/Proto to get one of there tuning packages which includes the billet k24 upgrade in order to get the billet upgrade done...he said he doesn't deal directly w/the public.

 

Thats amazing if he just decided to do this...I would think he is hurting himself?
By any chance you didnt ask him for a tune also because thats why he would say get a package from them?..But I know in the past EPL didnt do any tunes for K24/20's...
Scott from Softronics once told me the tunes for the two are pretty similar for 18s and 20s.??
Good Luck..