P0701 Pd code
#1
07-30-2012, 10:08 PM
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P0701 Pd code. Tiptonic problem
On the way home from autocross on Sunday just motoring along on the highway the tip transmission acted up. When i shifted from third to forth it started slipping on the third time from third to forth .... No forth , like it was in neutral, shifted to fifth, no fifth like in neutral ... At this time there are no lights on the gear position indicators . It would not engage in any gear and I cost to the side of the road. After I stoped I shifted into park than back into first gear and it engaged . This time forth gear was not there like it was neutral and made it info fifth and it engaged. I made it home. On the way up the driveway it stayed in third and I parked it. I checked codes and p0701 Pd was there. Anyone have anything similar or thoughts.
Last edited by pat; 07-31-2012 at 05:07 PM. Reason: More info
#3
07-31-2012, 09:23 PM
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http://www.permoveo.ltd.uk/tabid/122...e/Default.aspx
Maby it's not too bad. Looks like it's more likely an electrical problem.
Maby it's not too bad. Looks like it's more likely an electrical problem.
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#11
08-17-2012, 01:05 PM
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Rep Power: 95 P0701 is not enough of a code , you also need the number ie 15, 49 ,51 etc . To read out codes fully and reset them you will need a PST2 or durametric to reset the Tip Codes
From the workshop manual. Hope its all copied correctly .
P0701
15 Excessive speed n2 or n3
A check is carried out to ascertain whether the n2 sensor signal or
the n3 sensor signal exceed a limit value. The aim of the fault detection
is to detect a hydraulic or mechanical malfunction of the transmission.
The frictional connection is interrupted by the Tiptronic control module!
Diagnosis conditions
A check is carried out to ascertain whether the n2 sensor signal or
the n3 sensor signal exceed a limit value. The aim of the fault detection
is to detect a hydraulic or mechanical malfunction of the transmission.
The frictional connection is interrupted by the Tiptronic control module!
Diagnosis conditions
•
Ignition on
•
•
n2 > 7000 rpm or n3 > 7000 rpm
Possible fault cause
Possible fault cause
♦
Mechanical fault in the front planetary gears
♦
♦
Excessive speed sensor n3 or outer disk bracket faulty
Affected terminals
Affected terminals
-
Diagnosis/Troubleshooting
49 Excessive speed engine
The CAN engine speed signal is checked to ascertain whether a
limit value is exceeded. The aim of the fault detection is to detect a
hydraulic or mechanical malfunction of the transmission.
Diagnosis/Troubleshooting
49 Excessive speed engine
The CAN engine speed signal is checked to ascertain whether a
limit value is exceeded. The aim of the fault detection is to detect a
hydraulic or mechanical malfunction of the transmission.
The frictional connection is interrupted by the Tiptronic control module
Diagnosis conditions
•
Ignition on
•
•
Engine speed > maximum switch speed + offset (e.g. max.
switch speed = 6000 rpm, offset = 500 rpm)
Possible fault cause
♦
Mechanical fault in the front planetary gears
Affected terminals
Affected terminals
-
Diagnosis/Troubleshooting
50 Impermissible transmission ratio
The transmission is checked to ascertain whether it shifts down as
permissible.
The frictional connection is interrupted by the Tiptronic control module!
Diagnosis conditions
•
Diagnosis/Troubleshooting
50 Impermissible transmission ratio
The transmission is checked to ascertain whether it shifts down as
permissible.
The frictional connection is interrupted by the Tiptronic control module!
Diagnosis conditions
•
Ignition on
Possible fault cause
Possible fault cause
♦
Mechanical fault in the front planetary gears
Affected terminals
Affected terminals
-
Diagnosis/Troubleshooting
Work instruction Display OK If not OK
1 Disassemble transmission and repair according to findings
Diagnosis/Troubleshooting
Work instruction Display OK If not OK
1 Disassemble transmission and repair according to findings
→ End
Note!
Note!
Work instruction Display OK If not OK
1 Disassemble transmission and repair according to findings → End
51 Transmission slips or gear implausible
51 Transmission slips or gear implausible
Checks are carried out to ascertain whether a gear is implausible or
the transmission slips.
The redundancy transistor is switched off. The setpoint values of
the current regulator are set to 0 and all change-over valves are
switched off. The control module is then in emergency operation.
Minimal cycle is additionally activated.
Diagnosis conditions
•
the transmission slips.
The redundancy transistor is switched off. The setpoint values of
the current regulator are set to 0 and all change-over valves are
switched off. The control module is then in emergency operation.
Minimal cycle is additionally activated.
Diagnosis conditions
•
Ignition on
•
•
No active gearshift
•
•
No speed n2 fault
•
•
Engine speed n2 > 150 rpm
•
•
No selector lever fault
•
•
No CAN fault
•
•
No PSM fault
•
•
At least one plausible rear wheel speed
•
•
All plausible PSM wheel speeds > 50 rpm
•
•
Difference between right and left wheel speed < 100 rpm (rear
and front)
•
Output shaft speed > 180 rpm
•
•
Engine speed > 450 rpm
Possible fault cause
Possible fault cause
♦
Leak in hydraulic wiring
♦
♦
Leak in mechanical transmission parts
♦
♦
Oil filter missing
Affected terminals
Affected terminals
-
Diagnosis/Troubleshooting
Note!
Work instruction Display OK If not OK
Diagnosis/Troubleshooting
Note!
Work instruction Display OK If not OK
1 Disassemble transmission and repair according to findings → End
Last edited by Frank ( Sunnyside ); 08-17-2012 at 01:18 PM.
#12
08-17-2012, 01:28 PM
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All the codes should clear with the battery disconnected for long enough, but that doesn't mean they won't come back.
#13
08-17-2012, 01:39 PM
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roger that. i wanted to make sure there were no codes that could be stored to keep it in say limp mode after a battery disconnect. the 701 code gives a lot of stuff that could be wrong. tonight i am going to take the pan off and see if this adds any info to a problem.
#14
08-17-2012, 01:41 PM
This is not quite correct. While some codes will clear with soft reset (disconnecting the battery) others will not. Some will also clear with cycles (on/off) and others will not.
#15
08-17-2012, 01:52 PM
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if there are some codes that cant be cleared with battery disconnect how are they cleared. i have a code reader and a flash cable , but not duramatic software. what ever i need to get i will get.