Where to purchase ignition coils
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#19
is there anything about the bbi coils that definitively outperform the 997 coils.. that can be explained? i.e...does your car feel faster? just still trying to figure out where the value lies. my car is modded, and it gets good spark as is.... just curious about them... still.
Last edited by '02996ttx50; 04-19-2013 at 06:57 AM.
#20
Just ordered my ignition coils from Pelican! They were very knowledgeable, professional, the person I got was a tech for Porsche and other makes for years (informed me of much of the details of how to replace the coils) and it was the cheapest that I could find.
Thanks
Bobby Ali
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Thanks
Bobby Ali
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#22
is there anything about the bbi coils that definitively outperform the 997 coils.. that can be explained? i.e...does your car feel faster? just still trying to figure out where the value lies. my car is modded, and it gets good spark as is.... just curious about them... still.
#23
i see.. as long as you feel it? it's probably worth it. thanks.
#25
virtually one and the same. i always get the 997 bosch but beru are the same. think of their COILS ( either beru/bosch ) as direct oem fitment and much like the two companies plugs. virtually interchangeable.. and for the purposes of performance, they are they same. $38 for bosch is cheap, if all else is equal ( s&h/tax/vat? ) get the bosch for 37.95.
+ 3 on pelican for most stuff but they are local to me. going to nyc is at least a 5 day ship unless you pay for expedited.
someday... bbi coils. for sure.
+ 3 on pelican for most stuff but they are local to me. going to nyc is at least a 5 day ship unless you pay for expedited.
someday... bbi coils. for sure.
Last edited by '02996ttx50; 09-26-2014 at 06:17 AM.
#28
Many people favor the Bosch coils versus the OEM Beru. I currently run the Bosch coils but can or feel absolutely no difference over the Berus that I ran previously. Talk to most knowledgeable shops and they will discount the "fancy" coils and tell you to stick with OEM. In the scheme of things and how much people spend on mods on these cars, paying and extra $500 for the BBI coils is relative peanuts if they actually provided a quantifiable improvement. The problem is the classic fact that when someone purchases an aftermarket product they do so because they have bought into the pitch that it will improve performance. As a result you will have the natural tendency to justify the money spent by "seeing" a performance benefit in their head. Classic placebo effect. Dyno numbers will be useless because the variance of a typical dyno is greater than any benefit the coils could provide. I don't see how a "butt" dyne could detect a couple of HP on a 500+hp car. I know my **s isn't that sensitive... YMMV..
#29
Many people favor the Bosch coils versus the OEM Beru. I currently run the Bosch coils but can or feel absolutely no difference over the Berus that I ran previously. Talk to most knowledgeable shops and they will discount the "fancy" coils and tell you to stick with OEM. In the scheme of things and how much people spend on mods on these cars, paying and extra $500 for the BBI coils is relative peanuts if they actually provided a quantifiable improvement. The problem is the classic fact that when someone purchases an aftermarket product they do so because they have bought into the pitch that it will improve performance. As a result you will have the natural tendency to justify the money spent by "seeing" a performance benefit in their head. Classic placebo effect. Dyno numbers will be useless because the variance of a typical dyno is greater than any benefit the coils could provide. I don't see how a "butt" dyne could detect a couple of HP on a 500+hp car. I know my **s isn't that sensitive... YMMV..
..and based on that theory alone it *might* potentially diminish the items listed in your own sig line dramatically also lol.
but i do agree there isn't a guy alive that could tell new bosch from beru coils OR plugs all else being equal? but the bbi plasma coils *might* be a different story. i've never tried em. though i also agree ( at least on paper..) that many of us in fact do want to feel that whatever mod(s) we do to the car are an "improvement", whether *they* produce quantifiable results.. or not.
the rest is conjecture.
#30
all of that only works as a theoretical "argument" because if it were "empirically" "true" then no one would ever buy any aftermarket parts without seeing certifiable graphs "proving" gains or improvement(s) over stock components.
..and based on that theory alone it *might* potentially diminish the items listed in your own sig line dramatically also lol.
but i do agree there isn't a guy alive that could tell new bosch from beru coils OR plugs all else being equal? but the bbi plasma coils *might* be a different story. i've never tried em. though i also agree ( at least on paper..) that many of us in fact do want to feel that whatever mod(s) we do to the car are an "improvement", whether *they* produce quantifiable results.. or not.
the rest is conjecture.
..and based on that theory alone it *might* potentially diminish the items listed in your own sig line dramatically also lol.
but i do agree there isn't a guy alive that could tell new bosch from beru coils OR plugs all else being equal? but the bbi plasma coils *might* be a different story. i've never tried em. though i also agree ( at least on paper..) that many of us in fact do want to feel that whatever mod(s) we do to the car are an "improvement", whether *they* produce quantifiable results.. or not.
the rest is conjecture.
Like I said, YMMV. Just saying that once you spend money on something it's much more likely you will "feel" an improvement to justify your purchase. Just human nature. If someone can feel a 5 or 10 hp improvement on a 550hp car then they are much more in tune with your car than I will ever be. That's why I datalog everything in a repeatable closed environment in order to see if there is a quantifiable benefit or not. I'm just not good enough to tell by feel....
Last edited by pwdrhound; 09-26-2014 at 10:59 AM.