are H&R's the best lowering spring?
 

not counting coilovers because obviously....they are way better. I just want to lower a bit and even out the monster wheel gap in front and line it up with the rears. Ive only really read about H&R, and seems to be a popular choice, but what are some other equal brands?

Thanks for any info

Are you running 19's or 18's and what size tires? From what I have been told, the h&r springs work well with this porsche. I have owned eibach springs in the past in other cars and haven't gas problems other than leaking shock over time.

Sorry, haven't had problems not gas problems. Lol

i've successfully run h&r sport springs on two tt's. no issues other than they tend to bind ( click/creak ) for a sec at full lock ( annoying ) but that is just an aesthetic consideration. they will drop the car to your liking about 40mm +/- and they will also "sag"over time a bit. watch out for camber and premature wear on rear tires. i use them in concert with gt3 sways, and a proper gt2/x73 alignment. love em, but they can be a bit "harsh" for a dd depending upon road conditions. i prefer it by far over stock. in fact, little comparison, i would say.

400 bucks. can't beat em for 400 bucks. german springs are good. h&r/eibach/bilstein whatever. they are all very familiar with porsche.

I have a set of H&R coilovers that just came off my car. I'll be selling them, probably next week. I'm not sure of the mileage but the car has 17,000 miles, and it was sold as CPO with 8000, so these were installed somewhere between 9,000 and 3000 miles ago. (The guy I bought it from had it for 3 years, 3000 miles and he didn't put them on.) Nothing wrong with them as far as I know -- I just wanted a cushier ride, as I bought this car for driving 2-3 days a week as my DD, and I have others for track/mountain work.

Anyway, I'll post em up here in the proper venue when I get them back from the shop that swapped them out.

Cheers!

Got them, love them. Drop is perfect. Ride quality largely unaffected. Doooo it!

Where is the cheapest place to buy? Any vendors here sell? Anyone know how much alignment is effected without an alignment right after?

ya gotta re-align bro. shouldnt be more than 400 online retailers

Well, I meant a vendor here on the forum

this is how much time i have for you my friend

http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/2...05-p-1706.html

I had them on my car and took them off. They are garbage.

Sure it will drop the car, that's why people buy them, but the drivability is gone. These are way too stiff and don't work on the street. The stock shocks aren't able to damp them. It's a terrible combo. Anyone who has driven a car with race coilover will tell you that you can have really stiff springs but still have good drivability and swallow bumps. That requires shocks that were valved according to the spring rates.

If you care about how the car drives more than how the car looks, leave it stock or buy a proper coilover set up. This is a pure cosmetic modification. If you were in the area I'd give you my springs. Be warned.

i have run them for years ( although replaced when worn ) without issues on MO30's.
i wouldn't say "garbage" but rather an intermediate compromise between stock shocks/springs and full coilovers. that would be a more accurate description, i think. is it possible you ran the "race" spring? they are indeed way too harsh for the street. not so the "sport ( medium) stiffness spring by h&r.

The thing is your setup is not just a set of springs on otherwise stock setup. So I don't think we can compare our experiences with H&R springs. EDIT* maybe I had the race springs. They were on the car when I bought it. Any chance you know the part number so I can check that out?

My comment is that the stock shocks are not valved to cope with the extra stiffness of the H&R springs. Over bumps the tire will bump and lose contact with the road. Only for a very short time, but it's not "safe". Sure it depends on how the car is driven, but that's far from being an effective or fast set up. And definitely not a safe or comfortable combo for the street.

Of course, being that you have different shocks and sway bars might be different. Could also be the road conditions, here the roads are pretty much awful. On smooth roads it is probably "ok". Or maybe the problem is with my shocks. I don't know. I went back to stock springs though.

And in keeping with the Internet policy of having 180 degree opposing views on all subjects:

Two weeks ago I got rid of the H&R Coilovers that came on my car. Had them replaced with new OEM struts and H&R springs. Couldn't be happier. The ride over bad pavement is better, and over decent pavement that just has some undulations rather than actual potholes or cracks, it is MUCH better. I can't get over how much better for street driving I like this setup. The springs are purely for cosmetics (lowering) and I suspect I'd like the stock spring rates even better for daily driving purposes, but I'm vain and like the dropped look.

But any way you slice it, the new setup is far preferable for street driving.

Disclaimer: I also changed wheels from 19 to 18 at the same time, so that obviously has a contributing value. From years of experience I would suggest the strut change has a far greater impact on this than the wheel change, but I can't say that with absolute certainty in this case.

Disclaimer 2: I also don't know which H&R Coilover I had -- they came on the car.

Cheers!

i hear ya and wasn't attempting to denigrate your experience..my rebuttal was only to point out you *may* have had the race springs and they are all but UNdriveable on the street. so i'd have had the same reaction. i don't know the correct part number but i do know that the "sport" springs are fine. harsher than stock? by far, but tolerable and the trade off that many ( me included ) find for a better stance and handling. better NOT softer though. agreed.

... and yes, i have gt3sways and stuff to assist and the mo30s are proven to work in concert with stiffer springs as well. ymmv of course