991 S pdk sport chrono driving impressions (vs. 996tt)
#1
991 S pdk sport chrono driving impressions (vs. 996tt)
Ok, so every year or so I get the small itch for something a little newer or different. I Love my car as it is so well sorted to my personal specifications, but sometimes I just can't help test driving a few cars that I think may eclipse the fun factor of my car, without going whole hog on a full blown exotic (i.e., gallardo, f360, etc....). Last year I went through this with a 996 gt3 and after test driving a few it was very clear that I would not enjoy a 6 gt3 as much, and would really miss the torque if I jumped ship from the 996tt.
So then the new 991 comes out and I read all the rave reviews, and without question its good looking (at least to me). So my curiousity is piqued and I go test drive, thinking that if its as good as billed I might be ready to pull the trigger.
Nope! Not even close. Don't get me wrong, the car was fast and fun, very stable and refined, and shifted so fast it was unbelievable. But, my car just felt so much faster and actually, more fun to drive. You could really feel the difference in torque, even though I'm still on stock turbos (albeit with a few mods). I got back in my car and just laughed at how much fun these "old" 996tt's can be. It would be fun to get the updated look, but not at the expense of all the other things I love about my car. Even if a new 991 could be had for exactly what I could get for my car, I'd probably still opt for my car over the 991.
Now, I've never driven a 997 gt3, and maybe that would "scratch that itch" for me. Likewise, I'm sure I would love a 997 turbo, but can't really justify the cost difference when I'm just a set of hybrid turbos away from being able to lay waste to just about anything on the road. So for now I'm going to enjoy my "old" 105k mile 996tt for a while longer!
Anyway, just thought I'd share my impressions. Its easy to forget how amazing our cars are with a little care and just a few relatively cheap mods.
So then the new 991 comes out and I read all the rave reviews, and without question its good looking (at least to me). So my curiousity is piqued and I go test drive, thinking that if its as good as billed I might be ready to pull the trigger.
Nope! Not even close. Don't get me wrong, the car was fast and fun, very stable and refined, and shifted so fast it was unbelievable. But, my car just felt so much faster and actually, more fun to drive. You could really feel the difference in torque, even though I'm still on stock turbos (albeit with a few mods). I got back in my car and just laughed at how much fun these "old" 996tt's can be. It would be fun to get the updated look, but not at the expense of all the other things I love about my car. Even if a new 991 could be had for exactly what I could get for my car, I'd probably still opt for my car over the 991.
Now, I've never driven a 997 gt3, and maybe that would "scratch that itch" for me. Likewise, I'm sure I would love a 997 turbo, but can't really justify the cost difference when I'm just a set of hybrid turbos away from being able to lay waste to just about anything on the road. So for now I'm going to enjoy my "old" 105k mile 996tt for a while longer!
Anyway, just thought I'd share my impressions. Its easy to forget how amazing our cars are with a little care and just a few relatively cheap mods.
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I'm a very lucky person. Have a modded/upgraded 996 TT Cab with Tip and a 991S X51 Cab with PDK. Very different cars. The 991 seems to need to be driven (so to speak) to get enjoyable performance. The TT has tons more torque and is much easier to drive, especially in city traffic. Which one do I prefer? Answer is Yes to both. Depends on my mood except for getting miles onto the 991 to get well broken in. No chance of getting rid of either of them in the foreseeable future.
#7
I had the opportunity to drive a 997 GT3RS.
After looking and hearing the car, I thought wow, I think I could get rid of the turbo for that.
After driving the car, I wouldn't do it. The car handled great, sounded great and looked great, but it just didn't have enough push in the back to truly feel like a super car.
I really want a 997TT making about 600whp, with a fully upgraded suspension, but with the rear bumper, rear wing, center exit exhaust and wheels from a GT3RS.
It never hurts to dream.
After looking and hearing the car, I thought wow, I think I could get rid of the turbo for that.
After driving the car, I wouldn't do it. The car handled great, sounded great and looked great, but it just didn't have enough push in the back to truly feel like a super car.
I really want a 997TT making about 600whp, with a fully upgraded suspension, but with the rear bumper, rear wing, center exit exhaust and wheels from a GT3RS.
It never hurts to dream.
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#8
Wow! That is great that you can swing both! I can totally understand the 991 if keeping the 996 were an option. After all, my daily driver is an SMG BMW M3 which is actually pretty fun to drive and live with in traffic, etc.... The 991 was really fun, but I just couldn't justify the extra 70k or so it would take for me to jump to one.
#9
I had the opportunity to drive a 997 GT3RS.
After looking and hearing the car, I thought wow, I think I could get rid of the turbo for that.
After driving the car, I wouldn't do it. The car handled great, sounded great and looked great, but it just didn't have enough push in the back to truly feel like a super car.
I really want a 997TT making about 600whp, with a fully upgraded suspension, but with the rear bumper, rear wing, center exit exhaust and wheels from a GT3RS.
It never hurts to dream.
After looking and hearing the car, I thought wow, I think I could get rid of the turbo for that.
After driving the car, I wouldn't do it. The car handled great, sounded great and looked great, but it just didn't have enough push in the back to truly feel like a super car.
I really want a 997TT making about 600whp, with a fully upgraded suspension, but with the rear bumper, rear wing, center exit exhaust and wheels from a GT3RS.
It never hurts to dream.
#10
Just to clarify, my car is making over 500wtq, so the torque difference versus a GT3RS is huge.
For someone who's happy driving a stock 996TT, I'm sure they would love the GT3RS.
Scottslaw,
That doesn't apply to you.
Later, Steve
For someone who's happy driving a stock 996TT, I'm sure they would love the GT3RS.
Scottslaw,
That doesn't apply to you.
Later, Steve
#12
Thanks for the update! I get a similar itch periodically. My personal preference is to get a numbers matching '73 RS before I go with the GT3RS...just my personal preference. The old stuff is iconic in its own way.
Ok, so every year or so I get the small itch for something a little newer or different. I Love my car as it is so well sorted to my personal specifications, but sometimes I just can't help test driving a few cars that I think may eclipse the fun factor of my car, without going whole hog on a full blown exotic (i.e., gallardo, f360, etc....). Last year I went through this with a 996 gt3 and after test driving a few it was very clear that I would not enjoy a 6 gt3 as much, and would really miss the torque if I jumped ship from the 996tt.
So then the new 991 comes out and I read all the rave reviews, and without question its good looking (at least to me). So my curiousity is piqued and I go test drive, thinking that if its as good as billed I might be ready to pull the trigger.
Nope! Not even close. Don't get me wrong, the car was fast and fun, very stable and refined, and shifted so fast it was unbelievable. But, my car just felt so much faster and actually, more fun to drive. You could really feel the difference in torque, even though I'm still on stock turbos (albeit with a few mods). I got back in my car and just laughed at how much fun these "old" 996tt's can be. It would be fun to get the updated look, but not at the expense of all the other things I love about my car. Even if a new 991 could be had for exactly what I could get for my car, I'd probably still opt for my car over the 991.
Now, I've never driven a 997 gt3, and maybe that would "scratch that itch" for me. Likewise, I'm sure I would love a 997 turbo, but can't really justify the cost difference when I'm just a set of hybrid turbos away from being able to lay waste to just about anything on the road. So for now I'm going to enjoy my "old" 105k mile 996tt for a while longer!
Anyway, just thought I'd share my impressions. Its easy to forget how amazing our cars are with a little care and just a few relatively cheap mods.
So then the new 991 comes out and I read all the rave reviews, and without question its good looking (at least to me). So my curiousity is piqued and I go test drive, thinking that if its as good as billed I might be ready to pull the trigger.
Nope! Not even close. Don't get me wrong, the car was fast and fun, very stable and refined, and shifted so fast it was unbelievable. But, my car just felt so much faster and actually, more fun to drive. You could really feel the difference in torque, even though I'm still on stock turbos (albeit with a few mods). I got back in my car and just laughed at how much fun these "old" 996tt's can be. It would be fun to get the updated look, but not at the expense of all the other things I love about my car. Even if a new 991 could be had for exactly what I could get for my car, I'd probably still opt for my car over the 991.
Now, I've never driven a 997 gt3, and maybe that would "scratch that itch" for me. Likewise, I'm sure I would love a 997 turbo, but can't really justify the cost difference when I'm just a set of hybrid turbos away from being able to lay waste to just about anything on the road. So for now I'm going to enjoy my "old" 105k mile 996tt for a while longer!
Anyway, just thought I'd share my impressions. Its easy to forget how amazing our cars are with a little care and just a few relatively cheap mods.
#13
the 991s is baddass for a stock 911 esp the exhaust note in throttle blips in sport mode! i loved it in spite of its "compromise" btw "sport" car and daily driver and could easily see having one if i was still into leasing/dumping every 3 yrs
but it's nothing at all like the "neck snapping hang on for dear life" of my modestly modded old 96t lol
but it's nothing at all like the "neck snapping hang on for dear life" of my modestly modded old 96t lol
#14
I test drove one last year as well. Love the looks, interior, sound, etc. The only thing it is lacking is torque but the car makes up for that in most other areas.
That said, the 991S vert I drove had a $130k sticker?! Definitely not worth THAT much!! A straight up trade for my 996TT, that I would obviously consider.
That said, the 991S vert I drove had a $130k sticker?! Definitely not worth THAT much!! A straight up trade for my 996TT, that I would obviously consider.
#15
Yeah..I had that same itch for a while now...was DYING to get back into another Pcar. After shopping around..I decided I didn't want "settle" for ANOTHER 996 turbo (no offense, but had one), and didn't want to belly up $80k for a 997turbo right now.
So I "settled" on a SL65. Was never much of a Benz guy, but always wanted one of these. Quite frankly, I am very happy with my decision right now. This is the first car that I have driven to the track and ran 11's, stock. I'll get a 997 turbo someday...just not anytime soon...
So I "settled" on a SL65. Was never much of a Benz guy, but always wanted one of these. Quite frankly, I am very happy with my decision right now. This is the first car that I have driven to the track and ran 11's, stock. I'll get a 997 turbo someday...just not anytime soon...