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Zuluracerx 10-19-2013 06:46 PM

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I completely agree on the front wings. In our case we are trying to vent the trapped air in the wheel well that creates lift. The wheel/tire tuck WAY under the lip when it's on the ground. We run a lot of neg camber for the track.

Zuluracerx 10-23-2013 10:41 PM

Got Tires?
 
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Don't laugh but I'm starting to think the RSR 31/71 rears are too small. Next step up is the LMP1 size 37/65.

Mad Ness 10-23-2013 11:45 PM

hilarious

Originally Posted by Zuluracerx (Post 3964938)
Don't laugh but I'm starting to think the RSR 31/71 rears are too small. Next step up is the LMP1 size 37/65.

what do figures "31/71" and "37/65" refer to?

your car looks amazing. now quit teasing with the one photo. Show us more!:D

Zuluracerx 10-24-2013 08:34 AM

Oh sorry, it refers to the width and overall diameter. 31 = 310 mm wide and 64 = 640 mm in diameter. 31/71 is the size used on the RSR (fronts are 27/65). A 31/71 tire requires a 13" wide rim (18"). The next jump up is to LMP1 spec and that will be a 37/71 and require a 15" wide rim (maybe 14.5"). It's all about contact patch in road racing when you are laying down hp like we will in this turbo. It's kind of a different deal than roll on street racing or drags (straight line, quick races), we are looking for a flat torque curve around 600 or so. Beyond that and the power delivery starts to create problems. Think back to the domination of the 956/962 platforms, there is a reason Porsche stuck with 650 hp from the twin turbo 3.2 liter motors. Over that level and things get unreliable (over an endurance road race) pretty quickly. It also requires Hans Stuck driving to gain the benefit of even marginally more power... :)

Zuluracerx 10-24-2013 07:58 PM

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Here is the RSR size with better spacing.

Puppan 10-27-2013 03:44 PM

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Here you can order my front 996->997 kit including 30mm wider front fenders for 2950$

Goto http://rpglasfiber.com/
Then search for 8059032

Was anyone lucky enough to get hold of A.I.R..? I´m looking to widen my rear end a bit and their 1 inch back fenders looks nice!

/Pete




Mad Ness 10-27-2013 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by Zuluracerx (Post 3965084)
Oh sorry, it refers to the width and overall diameter. 31 = 310 mm wide and 64 = 640 mm in diameter. 31/71 is the size used on the RSR (fronts are 27/65). A 31/71 tire requires a 13" wide rim (18"). The next jump up is to LMP1 spec and that will be a 37/71 and require a 15" wide rim (maybe 14.5"). It's all about contact patch in road racing when you are laying down hp like we will in this turbo. It's kind of a different deal than roll on street racing or drags (straight line, quick races), we are looking for a flat torque curve around 600 or so. Beyond that and the power delivery starts to create problems. Think back to the domination of the 956/962 platforms, there is a reason Porsche stuck with 650 hp from the twin turbo 3.2 liter motors. Over that level and things get unreliable (over an endurance road race) pretty quickly. It also requires Hans Stuck driving to gain the benefit of even marginally more power... :)

Thanks for the explanation. sounds like a lot of fun. back when I was tracking a '95 Nissan gtr (which reminds me a lot of the 996tt) most circuit going examples were also limited to the 600hp range as most optimal for same reasons you mentioned.

mean footprint on your monster.

Mad Ness 10-27-2013 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by Puppan (Post 3967341)
Here you can order my front 996->997 kit including 30mm wider front fenders for 2950$

Goto http://rpglasfiber.com/
Then search for 8059032

Was anyone lucky enough to get hold of A.I.R..? I´m looking to widen my rear end a bit and their 1 inch back fenders looks nice!

/Pete



yes mine should be in transit. will revert with info. I suspect it's a bit more than 1"... we shall see.

Puppan 10-28-2013 03:05 AM


Originally Posted by Mad Ness (Post 3967559)
yes mine should be in transit. will revert with info. I suspect it's a bit more than 1"... we shall see.


Where do you live? How much were the freight cost? :-)
Delivery time from order?

Thanks
Peter

Zuluracerx 10-31-2013 06:13 PM

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Let's not let this thread die into the abyss..

HID landing lights, 600,000 candle power each mounted in carbon fiber buckets with RSR clear covers. We plan on running some night events in 2014.

Zuluracerx 10-31-2013 06:39 PM

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This is what the inside of a 2675 pound GT2 looks like. My office for 2014!

Whereitsat 10-31-2013 06:43 PM

Looks great. Nice work!

Zuluracerx 10-31-2013 07:00 PM

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Thanks. Complete carbon 997 dash made by Carbon Art. These guys are great and supply all the Grand Am teams, they stay pretty busy as you can imagine with all the banging and bumping in GA. Motec coming to life for the first time. How fitting Frankenstein is alive on Halloween! lol

Zuluracerx 10-31-2013 07:04 PM

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The whole things weighs something nuts like 12 ounces...we have to run center supports for the plastic windscreen, you never know what could come bouncing through a windshield.

Whereitsat 10-31-2013 07:29 PM

The dash is the bomb. Are you participating in a series?

Zuluracerx 10-31-2013 07:36 PM

In my own head I'm going to own the POC GT1. Muhahaha

daedalus 10-31-2013 10:13 PM

This thing is next level. I'm nursing a semi. Slow clap for you sir!

Zuluracerx 10-31-2013 10:42 PM

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Thanks! Here's a cool shot.

XwalkerX 11-26-2013 03:29 AM

im bumping this thread because widebody versions of widebody cars are epic

Puppan 11-26-2013 03:35 AM


Originally Posted by Mad Ness (Post 3967559)
yes mine should be in transit. will revert with info. I suspect it's a bit more than 1"... we shall see.

Any updates? :-)

MBH 12-10-2013 04:56 PM

This thread has ruined me lol I've been looking up RSRs for the past day now.... not gonna cut my car up, so IDK why I'm even wasting my time. They look KILLER though!!

MBH 12-10-2013 09:58 PM

https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/...5e&oe=52AA31A8
https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/...58&oe=52A9DB99
Nice pictures of cars that we know was done as a kit. (the one one BruceM's old car, not sure about the black one)

How much are we talking about to get the basic RSR style seen in the picture of the white one above? What am I overlooking?

--Body kit: between $3500 (xtreme dimensions/duraflex) and $6000 (Vis)
--Wheels/tires $3k+

--Suspension (coilovers, sways, whatever)

--Exhaust fabricated to utilize the center exit (YMMV)

--Bodywork to get everything cut/fitted/prepped/mounted (???????)
--Bodywork to get headlights to mount & anything else needed (no idea what these kits actually "need" done to make work, I just have read big numbers being thrown around)

--Paint (no idea, knock on wood)

:confused:

MBH 12-10-2013 10:01 PM

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While it's not really the purpose of the thread... I gotta ask it anyways: Is there anything that is offered for our cars that is more mild, like the front fender/overfender used on the 997 GT2 RS? (Other than actually having the metal be worked, and then mold the bumper with fiberglass or something)

picture for reference:
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ine=1386738069

S4corrado996TT 12-11-2013 02:57 AM

Subscribed! Tks for posting these remarkalbe photos and video!

MBH 12-11-2013 05:46 PM

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member 'HIGHcard' did something different, put generic overfeners on his car.
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ine=1386809184
http://fatlace.com/2012/06/ace/
(can't find any clear pictures of his car, sorry)


Here is a GT3RS that BBi put together, I'm really curious if that little fender extension on the front could go on our cars.
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ine=1386809184
The album: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...3386590&type=1

Here is a GT3 RS that GMG built with GT3 cup fenders and GT3 cup fender extensions
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ine=1386809184
more: http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...ics-enjoy.html


More applicably to this thread, BBi designed their own fenders for their "projekt grip" 997TT
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ine=1386809184

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ine=1386809184

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ine=1386809184

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ine=1386809184

Tires are 285/345, so I guess they don't need to be any wider lol
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ine=1386809184
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ine=1386809184

BBi built car again for comparison
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ine=1386809184



Here are some more pictures of EDO's 996 RSR styled kit with 997 lights. This just looks chubby and bloated to me, rather than muscular :o
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ine=1386809184
many more: http://www.worldcarfans.com/10709173...96/lowphotos#0

a little over the (chop) top
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ine=1386809184
more: http://www.speedhunters.com/2013/09/.../#introduction


Not RSR or even on widebody cars for that matter, but some of the better pictures I've seen of the Ruf RGT's overfenders and the like.
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ine=1386809184
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...p;d=1150856473
The white car above is a build that Sharkwerks did, more here: http://sharkwerks.com/porsche/996-ca...e-and-ruf.html

Stumbled onto another type of 'thin' overfenders made by Eur Sport. Don't remember seeing them posted so here they are
link: http://autostyle-usa.com/porsche996/121001/
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ine=1386809184
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ine=1386809184

Mad Ness 12-11-2013 09:39 PM

AIR kit arrived. will post updates later.

MBH 12-12-2013 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by Mad Ness (Post 4000261)
AIR kit arrived. will post updates later.

:eek: I'm pumped to see what your impressions are!!

You're going to be doing all of these from AIR?
A.I.R Front Bumper 1" Widers Than Stock
A.I.R Front Fenders 1" Wider Than Stock
A.I.R Rear Flares 1" Wider Than Stock
A.I.R Rocker Panels
Air Duct Extensions
A.I.R Rear Bumper 2" Wider Than Stock

Do you anticipate needing anything else? What are you going to do for the front lip?
How are you going to address the additional width of the body in relationship to the wheels? Just wider wheels and lower offsets?

z06801 12-12-2013 09:40 AM

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I thought that this French kit looked pretty good it does come with 997 lights but the flares look nice.

joe731 12-12-2013 05:03 PM

Air
 
You go Mad Ness. I am excited that you are leading the way with a clear build path. Please share pics ... the more the better

nyc996x50 12-12-2013 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by Mad Ness (Post 4000261)
AIR kit arrived. will post updates later.

you are the man!

machinegunt 12-12-2013 10:13 PM

Subscribed :)

XwalkerX 12-12-2013 10:14 PM

I wish i had the balls and the funds to hack up my car to put some overfenders on

machinegunt 12-12-2013 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by XwalkerX (Post 4001164)
I wish i had the balls and the funds to hack up my car to put some overfenders on

Yeah, me to! Would be a good project for a car that's been in a collision! You can pick up wrecks with salvage titles for pretty cheap from insurance auctions! ;)

Puppan 01-07-2014 12:44 AM


Originally Posted by Mad Ness (Post 4000261)
AIR kit arrived. will post updates later.

Any updates, how did the kit look like, quality?
Could you post a couple of pics holding the rear fenders in place so I can get a felling for the look! :-)

Mad Ness 01-08-2014 12:00 AM

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Haven't started work on the car but here's the kit lined up.

Puppan 01-08-2014 12:22 AM


Originally Posted by Mad Ness (Post 4018790)
Haven't started work on the car but here's the kit lined up.


Thanks!!!
Looks quite good?! :-)

Extreme Dimensions 01-10-2014 05:16 PM

Zuluracerx is/was your car at 911 Design in Montclair by any chance?

Zuluracerx 01-10-2014 06:01 PM

Loren (911 D) took car of my GT3 Cup car and installed the GT3R kit you see in my avatar. My new 911 race car project (the widebody GT2 iteration) is at Vision with Dwain. I might add that both are top notch shops and very knowledgeable at making race cars go seriously fast. John

JJD89 996TT 02-20-2014 06:53 AM

these widebody cars look really cool

MBH 04-20-2014 04:26 PM

any progress on this? One of the cooler threads on here IMO.


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