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gt3 RSR front end on wide body 996?

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Some more build videos - details into body work required:

Complete 4 part video in below link:
http://flatsixes.com/cars/911-gt2gt3...1-porsche-rsr/
"english wheel" metal work on rear fender/liners
more body work...

wide body with out 2pc flare look - body work on 996:

Front end RSR install on 996NB:
 
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RSR type Front Ducting Photos

Just some more reference material.
 
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996tt RSR build

Link below documents a build starting with a 996tt to 997gt3 front end conversion, then back to a 996 RSR conversion. Not in English but lots of progress photos.
http://rejsa.nu/forum/viewtopic.php?...er=asc&start=0












 
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Photos of rear quarter panel werks. (996/986):

To get an idea of relationship between outer quarter panel and inner fender linings... Once it's started, there's no going back...



 
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First time I've seen this deck lid for turbo 996WB. Looks very similar to ones used by motorsport biturbo RSRs.
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http://www.perspective-racing.com/EN-carbon-wing.html





 
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I'm in the middle of a build similar to this. My car will be a dedicated race car though. It started life as a 2003 GT2. If looks are all you are after then the intercooler ducts are not an issue. If it's performance you are trying to achieve then it takes a complete redesign of the rear to accommodate the RSR suspension and 31/71 slicks. There is simply not enough room in the rear. The solution is to tub the rear and reroute the intercooler ducting. Once the huge wheels/tires/suspension fit you will find that the turbos will no longer fit. They must be relocated with a custom set of headers. No big deal but must be considered. Good luck with your project, it's not for the faint at heart (or wallet). lol
 
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Back to final assembly.
 
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Originally Posted by Zuluracerx
I'm in the middle of a build similar to this. My car will be a dedicated race car though. It started life as a 2003 GT2. If looks are all you are after then the intercooler ducts are not an issue. If it's performance you are trying to achieve then it takes a complete redesign of the rear to accommodate the RSR suspension and 31/71 slicks. There is simply not enough room in the rear. The solution is to tub the rear and reroute the intercooler ducting. Once the huge wheels/tires/suspension fit you will find that the turbos will no longer fit. They must be relocated with a custom set of headers. No big deal but must be considered. Good luck with your project, it's not for the faint at heart (or wallet). lol
thanks for sharing! the rear quarters on your build are first I've seen like that on a 996. stunning. all the custom RSR work sounds very intriguing. I think a build thread is in order...

my build will be much more modest. aim is for looks/street. But still didn't want to go half-a$$ with ducting so went with a wider version of the gt2 bumper.
 
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Not exactly a 996tt but it's exactly the subtle wide look I'm going for. I want those fenders!


IMO, the weakest part of the 996tt is the front fenders.
 
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I completely agree on the front wings. In our case we are trying to vent the trapped air in the wheel well that creates lift. The wheel/tire tuck WAY under the lip when it's on the ground. We run a lot of neg camber for the track.
 
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Got Tires?

Don't laugh but I'm starting to think the RSR 31/71 rears are too small. Next step up is the LMP1 size 37/65.
 
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Originally Posted by Zuluracerx
Don't laugh but I'm starting to think the RSR 31/71 rears are too small. Next step up is the LMP1 size 37/65.
what do figures "31/71" and "37/65" refer to?

your car looks amazing. now quit teasing with the one photo. Show us more!
 
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Oh sorry, it refers to the width and overall diameter. 31 = 310 mm wide and 64 = 640 mm in diameter. 31/71 is the size used on the RSR (fronts are 27/65). A 31/71 tire requires a 13" wide rim (18"). The next jump up is to LMP1 spec and that will be a 37/71 and require a 15" wide rim (maybe 14.5"). It's all about contact patch in road racing when you are laying down hp like we will in this turbo. It's kind of a different deal than roll on street racing or drags (straight line, quick races), we are looking for a flat torque curve around 600 or so. Beyond that and the power delivery starts to create problems. Think back to the domination of the 956/962 platforms, there is a reason Porsche stuck with 650 hp from the twin turbo 3.2 liter motors. Over that level and things get unreliable (over an endurance road race) pretty quickly. It also requires Hans Stuck driving to gain the benefit of even marginally more power...
 
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Here is the RSR size with better spacing.
 
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