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Old 01-05-2015, 11:03 PM
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Suspension Bang for the Buck

Greetings!

I'm looking to lower my 02' 996 Turbo and I'm getting sick and tired of every shop I talk to pushing Bilstein PSS10s down my throat.

They are awesome, but I don't like the idea of dropping $4500 for them as I think they are way overkill for my use case.

I DO NOT track my car but I want to do shocks and springs as my car is an 02', I figure after 13 years it could use them.

Anyone got any recommendations for coil-overs that are a bit less expensive? How are the H&R coil-overs?

I just want to drop the car (just got new wheels) and improve handling but don't need a crazy track setup.

I plan on doing sway bars too.

Looking to spend about $3500 installed sans the sway bars.

Any advice and/or first hand recommendations are appreciated.
 
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Old 01-05-2015, 11:28 PM
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refurb some used PSS9s?
 
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Old 01-06-2015, 12:05 AM
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I thought about PSS9s, what are the big differences between the PSS9s and PSS10s other than one more suspension setting?

I'm just hell bent NOT to spend $4500 on PSS10s.
 
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Old 01-06-2015, 12:32 AM
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age/time since release
 
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Old 01-06-2015, 12:36 AM
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its from an NA thread, but here you go

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https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...pinions-2.html
 
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Old 01-06-2015, 06:57 AM
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The beauty of the PSS10's is the fact that they are NOT a track focused suspension. It is a high quality suspension tuned for the typical street car. If you want to track your, you should not buy PSS10's. They are waaayyyy under sprung for serious track use.

Being that I typically like my cars sprung much stiffer then the PSS10's I would buy a different setup, but if you want want a high quality street setup, you can't go wrong with PSS10's.

I would also like to verify something that was said in the other thread. If you want any technical support for you PSS10's, it is non existent. All questions much go through a distributor/retailer and even then they ask the question, they get no response from Bilstein. I simply asked how much I could increase the spring rates with the stock valving and how much it would cost to re-valve the shocks for stiffer springs and got nothing.

For what you want, a basic H&R RSS ClubSport coil-over kit for under $2,000 will probably do everything you want.

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For what you want, a basic H&R RSS ClubSport coil-over kit for under $2,000 will probably do everything you want.
I've heard the same, but the roads in my area suck. If you have a lot of washboard asphalt roads you probably want something with adjustable compression and rebound settings.
 
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you said you don't track, why do you need coilovers?
Best bang for the buck is simple H&R or Eibach springs, any lower IMO and your slamming it.
 
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the best options for this platform for a dual duty, yet primarily street driven car, is the bilstein MO30 ( hard to find but possible ) or the factory "sport" suspension setup, aka x73.


those are the best bang for the buck, as well as the options designed by Porsche to be used for a non track dedicated car and would meet your stated goal(s) for the car, while not spending insane coilover money. you can still lower with springs while retaining the stiffer/sportier setup those two provide.
 
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I personally would do as 02996ttx50 suggests and look for OEM set up but good after market lowering springs would suit your needs and be cheaper.
 
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There's one set for sale on the marketplace right now, but a bit overpriced imo. Another set sold last week for $2300. Might reach out to this person and see if they will deal.

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...kit-996tt.html

Also, installation is really not that difficult. If you're not afraid to get your hands dirty, you can save a good chunk of cash. I think it only took me like 5 hours to install mine with a friend's help.
 
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I recently bought PS10's from tire rack and had my indy install.
The total cost was around 3K.
They are great on the street and fine for my limited track use of 4 or 5 days per year.
 
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older car needs new(er) shocks/struts to go with the springs. not good to mix old struts/new springs etc. new with new is best obviously even if just oem sport setups.


I myself am looking out for "new" MO30's as a backup to my aging set. but I see absolutely NO reason to change. car is dropped 1.5" w mo30's/h&r springs and never bottoms out. feels perfect ( but decidedly stiff! ).. to me.
 
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The used pss10 set up if as described would be an option if the price could be worked and putting it in yourself is easy and will save big. I personally would just bite the bullet and buy new as I do not like to chance used suspension unless I really know its history.
 
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