Chevy`s Corvette division BOUGHT a Porsche TT
#31
11-01-2005, 08:44 AM
Originally posted by DT04R
This has been clarified by several people that the Z *did* in fact use a flying start (pretty much like all 'ring times since it removes the start acceleration as a factor).
DT
This has been clarified by several people that the Z *did* in fact use a flying start (pretty much like all 'ring times since it removes the start acceleration as a factor).
DT
#32
11-01-2005, 09:07 AM
Apparently some folks in the know at the Z06 event asked Dave Farmer and some other racers who knew everyone involved in the *actual* real world lapping event (knowing that it had been reported by a mag otherwise), and they indicated _yes_ flying start like ALL recorded ring times. You'll note from some of the commentary, Hans was talking about how well the car did lap after ++continuous++ lap (like there were no stops-starts).
The only reason this is relevant, is if the car ran that time from a dead stop, it would be even FASTER from a rolling start.
Killer time in any regard, especially from a car sporting runflats (also shows how much runflat technology has improved).
Dave posted something recently that was interesting though - even with the AH/TC disabled, he was apparrently still getting some auto-magic interference (mainly while trying to rotate the rear a bit). Said it would definitely be a deficit to hardcore 9-10/10th drivers. I wonder if the ring car had everything totally disabled.
(Personally I keep the performance mode active at events, I'm happy driving at 7/10th's and bringing the car home in one piece)
The only reason this is relevant, is if the car ran that time from a dead stop, it would be even FASTER from a rolling start.
Killer time in any regard, especially from a car sporting runflats (also shows how much runflat technology has improved).
Dave posted something recently that was interesting though - even with the AH/TC disabled, he was apparrently still getting some auto-magic interference (mainly while trying to rotate the rear a bit). Said it would definitely be a deficit to hardcore 9-10/10th drivers. I wonder if the ring car had everything totally disabled.
(Personally I keep the performance mode active at events, I'm happy driving at 7/10th's and bringing the car home in one piece)
Originally posted by SCvet00
It has also been clarified by the new Corvette Quarterly that it was from a dead stop. I don't know what to tell ya, and frankly, I don't really care if it were flying at 500 mph start or was going in reverse..
It has also been clarified by the new Corvette Quarterly that it was from a dead stop. I don't know what to tell ya, and frankly, I don't really care if it were flying at 500 mph start or was going in reverse..
#33
11-01-2005, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by SCvet00
In no way am I saying that the Z06 is better than a CGT IN ANY WAY, but, when it comes to performance strictly, the Z06 is damn impressive and can even give a CGT a run for it's money based on mag numbers AND real life driving on the track
In no way am I saying that the Z06 is better than a CGT IN ANY WAY, but, when it comes to performance strictly, the Z06 is damn impressive and can even give a CGT a run for it's money based on mag numbers AND real life driving on the track
10 seconds difference on any time under 8 minutes on the Ring is a LOT. Especially when you are talking about times in the low 7:30 range.
#34
11-01-2005, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by Hamann7
You live in a magazine world. On the racetrack, there simply is no comparison. Do you actually believe that the Z06's handling comes (esp. at high speeds) comes anywhere close to a Carrera GT with its pushrod suspension?
10 seconds difference on any time under 8 minutes on the Ring is a LOT. Especially when you are talking about times in the low 7:30 range.
You live in a magazine world. On the racetrack, there simply is no comparison. Do you actually believe that the Z06's handling comes (esp. at high speeds) comes anywhere close to a Carrera GT with its pushrod suspension?
10 seconds difference on any time under 8 minutes on the Ring is a LOT. Especially when you are talking about times in the low 7:30 range.
http://www.savefile.com/files.php?fid=4693895
I know the CGT is a better handeling car, all I am saying is the the Z is a tough competitor. Remember, the Z ran a 7:42.9 with run flats. It probably has 7:39 in it with regular tires.
#36
11-01-2005, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by teflon_jones
Yawn.... Another thread about a 996TT versus a Corvette Z06. They're both incredible cars. I'm not a Corvette fan (other than the really old ones), but how can you argue with a car that laps the N'ring as fast as a 996TT?
Personally, I won't be buying a Z06. If I had the money, I'd get a used 911 of some sort. But that really doesn't matter.
Yawn.... Another thread about a 996TT versus a Corvette Z06. They're both incredible cars. I'm not a Corvette fan (other than the really old ones), but how can you argue with a car that laps the N'ring as fast as a 996TT?
Personally, I won't be buying a Z06. If I had the money, I'd get a used 911 of some sort. But that really doesn't matter.
They are amazing cars, maybe if i drive it it will change my mind, so i guess i cant talk yet
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11-01-2005, 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by iLLM3
dont want to be one of the dime a dozen owners and take such a hit a year or 2 down the line when i egt bored of it!
dont want to be one of the dime a dozen owners and take such a hit a year or 2 down the line when i egt bored of it!
When you get bored w/ a car, you just mod it
#38
11-01-2005, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by HotRodGuy
I bet the 996TT guys didn't mind. That's exactly what happened to them. Atleast I see a lot more p-cars then I do vettes out here, TT's are a dime a dozen.
I bet the 996TT guys didn't mind. That's exactly what happened to them. Atleast I see a lot more p-cars then I do vettes out here, TT's are a dime a dozen.
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11-01-2005, 04:44 PM
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I say kudos to Chevy for aiming for the 996TT. Obviously Porsche wasn't about to give them a 997TT so they made due with what was available. They should aim for the daily driver supercar king.
I think all this talk about Soul is crap. It's the same excuse Ferrari drivers give when a Porsche destroys it on the track. "It's not about numbers". Yes it is about numbers and the new Z06 has some serious numbers.
I think all this talk about Soul is crap. It's the same excuse Ferrari drivers give when a Porsche destroys it on the track. "It's not about numbers". Yes it is about numbers and the new Z06 has some serious numbers.
#41
11-01-2005, 05:34 PM
Originally posted by Dave
Soul = The size of the **** eating grin you have when driving the car.
Soul = Turning on the light in your garage to get one last look of the car before you turn in.
Soul = Turning through a turn with confidence at speed knowing that the car is going to take you to the next straight away so that you can continue your fun.
Soul = A car that you think, at the moment, you could keep forever because it is so perfect in every way.
This is getting too gay, so I think I'll stop here.
Soul = The size of the **** eating grin you have when driving the car.
Soul = Turning on the light in your garage to get one last look of the car before you turn in.
Soul = Turning through a turn with confidence at speed knowing that the car is going to take you to the next straight away so that you can continue your fun.
Soul = A car that you think, at the moment, you could keep forever because it is so perfect in every way.
This is getting too gay, so I think I'll stop here.
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11-01-2005, 06:16 PM
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Re: Driver is very fast!
Originally posted by mikerosi
The driver of the Z06 was Jan Magnussen, two-time winner of Lemans, F1 driver and he flat *** FLYS!!!
The driver of the Z06 was Jan Magnussen, two-time winner of Lemans, F1 driver and he flat *** FLYS!!!
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11-01-2005, 09:03 PM
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#45
11-01-2005, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by HotRodGuy
I bet the 996TT guys didn't mind. That's exactly what happened to them. Atleast I see a lot more p-cars then I do vettes out here, TT's are a dime a dozen.
When you get bored w/ a car, you just mod it
I bet the 996TT guys didn't mind. That's exactly what happened to them. Atleast I see a lot more p-cars then I do vettes out here, TT's are a dime a dozen.
When you get bored w/ a car, you just mod it
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