K16 billets are potent if done right
#16
Was this Randy's old car?
ironically this car was stripped down to 3000lbs and pushed the headgaskets at this power level. to those who believe this gospel 60-130, you will never ever see these times in a full weight car with a safe tune that will not hurt the stock motor.
Also the car was not on 19" wheels. It was in fact on 18" wheels with toyo R888 tires.
Also the car was not on 19" wheels. It was in fact on 18" wheels with toyo R888 tires.
#17
ironically this car was stripped down to 3000lbs and pushed the headgaskets at this power level. to those who believe this gospel 60-130, you will never ever see these times in a full weight car with a safe tune that will not hurt the stock motor.
Also the car was not on 19" wheels. It was in fact on 18" wheels with toyo R888 tires.
Also the car was not on 19" wheels. It was in fact on 18" wheels with toyo R888 tires.
You are wrong again and you never give up. You are now lying as usual and I don't appreciate you spreading the BS so please stop and get off this thread... you hassle me on 6speed and now on Facebook...
The car never blew a head gasket on k16 billets so get your story straight... and it was not on R888s either... it was only when the car was on A28s that he changed things...
So, please stop spreading lies because its uncalled for. I am giving you notice that Im contacting IB and letting them know about your relentless pursuit to tarnish my business.
markski
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#18
Mark,
You are wrong again and you never give up. You are now lying as usual and I don't appreciate you spreading the BS so please stop and get off this thread... you hassle me on 6speed and now on Facebook...
The car never blew a head gasket on k16 billets so get your story straight... and it was not on R888s either... it was only when the car was on A28s that he changed things...
So, please stop spreading lies because its uncalled for. I am giving you notice that Im contacting IB and letting them know about your relentless pursuit to tarnish my business.
markksi
You are wrong again and you never give up. You are now lying as usual and I don't appreciate you spreading the BS so please stop and get off this thread... you hassle me on 6speed and now on Facebook...
The car never blew a head gasket on k16 billets so get your story straight... and it was not on R888s either... it was only when the car was on A28s that he changed things...
So, please stop spreading lies because its uncalled for. I am giving you notice that Im contacting IB and letting them know about your relentless pursuit to tarnish my business.
markksi
#19
Mark,
You are wrong again and you never give up. You are now lying as usual and I don't appreciate you spreading the BS so please stop and get off this thread... you hassle me on 6speed and now on Facebook...
The car never blew a head gasket on k16 billets so get your story straight... and it was not on R888s either... it was only when the car was on A28s that he changed things...
So, please stop spreading lies because its uncalled for. I am giving you notice that Im contacting IB and letting them know about your relentless pursuit to tarnish my business.
markksi
You are wrong again and you never give up. You are now lying as usual and I don't appreciate you spreading the BS so please stop and get off this thread... you hassle me on 6speed and now on Facebook...
The car never blew a head gasket on k16 billets so get your story straight... and it was not on R888s either... it was only when the car was on A28s that he changed things...
So, please stop spreading lies because its uncalled for. I am giving you notice that Im contacting IB and letting them know about your relentless pursuit to tarnish my business.
markksi
I must use full disclosure in that my 16g and alpha 28 setup are not
standard "packaged" product. I spent a LOT of money to get this
performance. Peeling off a couple hundred pounds is not very hard
and knowing which mods really work and offer the best bang for the buck
is a matter of doing some research and asking a few of the guys who
really know. I'm down 340 lbs and don't have a "stripped" car and that
is expensive!
i am not lying, you are. info came straight from Randy. i have not a 1$ to gain or lose if you sell your koolaid or you dont.
OH and Randy didn't just tell this to me he told this to the whole forum:
i am simply pointing out that a regular car with these turbos will never ever reliably reach the level of performance Randys car you are advertising.
i also understand that 996 market isn't what it used to be and your days of selling 3000$ tunes are over but that doesn't mean that you should stoop to selling hopes and dreams powered by unicorn tears to guys who haven't been around here for a while.
isnt the title of this thread "K16 billets are potent if done right"
here is more interesting reading for the new guys and the IB staff where Randy actually said the turbos were Vivid 16Gs
Thank you!
The 16g setup was a fairly simple and straight forward approach.
No meth and no expensive billet wheel turbo. The previous record
holder, BHt and I had the same trubos. Vivid racing 16gs.
Markski 3.5 ic's, K & N, A.P. headers and exhaust, 60 lb injectors
A.P. Y pipe and Greddy ebc.
The car was lightened by 340 lbs. Light Weight OZ Aleggeritta rims,
RWD conversion, H&R coilovers, sport struts, adjustable rear ca's, coil packs
and a GT2 suspension alignment. Markski custom tune.
The a28 setup involved a rebuild with Pauter rods, head studs, gaskets
second fuel pump, turbo inlet piping and swapped the A.P exhaust out
for a 911 Tuning 2.75 cat-less X design.
The 16g setup was a fairly simple and straight forward approach.
No meth and no expensive billet wheel turbo. The previous record
holder, BHt and I had the same trubos. Vivid racing 16gs.
Markski 3.5 ic's, K & N, A.P. headers and exhaust, 60 lb injectors
A.P. Y pipe and Greddy ebc.
The car was lightened by 340 lbs. Light Weight OZ Aleggeritta rims,
RWD conversion, H&R coilovers, sport struts, adjustable rear ca's, coil packs
and a GT2 suspension alignment. Markski custom tune.
The a28 setup involved a rebuild with Pauter rods, head studs, gaskets
second fuel pump, turbo inlet piping and swapped the A.P exhaust out
for a 911 Tuning 2.75 cat-less X design.
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996TT SpoolBus - 204.6 mph 1/2 Mile 996TT WR Aug 2018, 9.5 @ 154 mph, 3.23 60-130 mph, 2.5 100-150 mph Manual Porsche World Record, 1400whp E85
997TT SlowBerry - 205.0 mph 1/2 Mile WR Nov 2018, 9.7 @ 170 mph 1/4 Mile , 3.2 60-130 mph , 2.4 100-150 mph , 1420whp E85
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997TT SilverSpool - 210.8 mph 1/2 Mile WR Apr 2019, 9.2 @ 168 mph 1/4 Mile Manual World Record , 3.15 60-130 mph , 2.72 100-150 mph , 1400whp E85
996TT SpoolBus - 204.6 mph 1/2 Mile 996TT WR Aug 2018, 9.5 @ 154 mph, 3.23 60-130 mph, 2.5 100-150 mph Manual Porsche World Record, 1400whp E85
997TT SlowBerry - 205.0 mph 1/2 Mile WR Nov 2018, 9.7 @ 170 mph 1/4 Mile , 3.2 60-130 mph , 2.4 100-150 mph , 1420whp E85
ESMOTOR | DO88 | TPC DSC | SYVECS | COBB | IPD | KLINE | XONA | AMS | ID | ERP | SACHS | TURBOSMART | CSF | DODSON |
Last edited by Mark @ AIM Performance; 07-08-2015 at 11:57 AM.
#20
wasn't he on k16 when he lifted the head (30* temps and stock headbolts with ms 100 race fuel which is what he always ran) and because of the engine work decided to go to alpha 28? and he was on r888 that was what randy ran on his car. it was speed riven who did the engine work headbolts rods and then you installed and tuned the 28's right? after about 3 months on this setup he went piggyback and 3073 turbos on corn
Im not going to argue either one of you... I contacted IB brands because I refuse to be hassled and have some spread lies about my work. Its uncalled for and disrespectful and its obvious who's hating.... thank you for smearing the crap all over my thread... SMH
regards,
markski
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9.66 seconds @ 147.76 mph 1/4 mile click to view
160 mph @ 9.77 seconds in 1/4 mile click to view
50% OFF ON PORSCHE ECU TUNING BLACK FRIDAY SPECIAL
2001 996TT 3.6L and stock ECU
9.66 seconds @ 147.76 mph 1/4 mile click to view
160 mph @ 9.77 seconds in 1/4 mile click to view
50% OFF ON PORSCHE ECU TUNING BLACK FRIDAY SPECIAL
Last edited by markski@markskituning; 07-08-2015 at 12:16 PM.
#21
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997TT SilverSpool - 210.8 mph 1/2 Mile WR Apr 2019, 9.2 @ 168 mph 1/4 Mile Manual World Record , 3.15 60-130 mph , 2.72 100-150 mph , 1400whp E85
996TT SpoolBus - 204.6 mph 1/2 Mile 996TT WR Aug 2018, 9.5 @ 154 mph, 3.23 60-130 mph, 2.5 100-150 mph Manual Porsche World Record, 1400whp E85
997TT SlowBerry - 205.0 mph 1/2 Mile WR Nov 2018, 9.7 @ 170 mph 1/4 Mile , 3.2 60-130 mph , 2.4 100-150 mph , 1420whp E85
ESMOTOR | DO88 | TPC DSC | SYVECS | COBB | IPD | KLINE | XONA | AMS | ID | ERP | SACHS | TURBOSMART | CSF | DODSON |
#TeamAIM
997TT SilverSpool - 210.8 mph 1/2 Mile WR Apr 2019, 9.2 @ 168 mph 1/4 Mile Manual World Record , 3.15 60-130 mph , 2.72 100-150 mph , 1400whp E85
996TT SpoolBus - 204.6 mph 1/2 Mile 996TT WR Aug 2018, 9.5 @ 154 mph, 3.23 60-130 mph, 2.5 100-150 mph Manual Porsche World Record, 1400whp E85
997TT SlowBerry - 205.0 mph 1/2 Mile WR Nov 2018, 9.7 @ 170 mph 1/4 Mile , 3.2 60-130 mph , 2.4 100-150 mph , 1420whp E85
ESMOTOR | DO88 | TPC DSC | SYVECS | COBB | IPD | KLINE | XONA | AMS | ID | ERP | SACHS | TURBOSMART | CSF | DODSON |
#22
One thing I am confused by and someone may correct me please
A car which does 5.86 in the 60-130 mph will TRAP much more than 126 mph in a quarter mile... I do 60-130 mph at 6.50 down a 2% slope in the freezing cold and trap 132-134 mph on a good day on the flat
5.86 60-130 mph in 4th gear as this run seemed to be would equate to a sub 11s quarter mile at 130+ yes
Say 4.4 secs 0 - 60 mph and maximum 6.3 secs to 130 mph changing 2-3-4 gears implies a car much faster than 125-26 in the quarter
prodigymb may have a point here
A car which does 5.86 in the 60-130 mph will TRAP much more than 126 mph in a quarter mile... I do 60-130 mph at 6.50 down a 2% slope in the freezing cold and trap 132-134 mph on a good day on the flat
5.86 60-130 mph in 4th gear as this run seemed to be would equate to a sub 11s quarter mile at 130+ yes
Say 4.4 secs 0 - 60 mph and maximum 6.3 secs to 130 mph changing 2-3-4 gears implies a car much faster than 125-26 in the quarter
prodigymb may have a point here
#23
randy never ran the 1/4 and its hard to compare a rolling run to a dig were your 60 ft time makes or breaks a run.
#24
One thing I am confused by and someone may correct me please
A car which does 5.86 in the 60-130 mph will TRAP much more than 126 mph in a quarter mile... I do 60-130 mph at 6.50 down a 2% slope in the freezing cold and trap 132-134 mph on a good day on the flat
5.86 60-130 mph in 4th gear as this run seemed to be would equate to a sub 11s quarter mile at 130+ yes
Say 4.4 secs 0 - 60 mph and maximum 6.3 secs to 130 mph changing 2-3-4 gears implies a car much faster than 125-26 in the quarter
prodigymb may have a point here
A car which does 5.86 in the 60-130 mph will TRAP much more than 126 mph in a quarter mile... I do 60-130 mph at 6.50 down a 2% slope in the freezing cold and trap 132-134 mph on a good day on the flat
5.86 60-130 mph in 4th gear as this run seemed to be would equate to a sub 11s quarter mile at 130+ yes
Say 4.4 secs 0 - 60 mph and maximum 6.3 secs to 130 mph changing 2-3-4 gears implies a car much faster than 125-26 in the quarter
prodigymb may have a point here
This car never ran at the 1/4 mile not sure where you got the 126 mph from.
There is no secrets here. The car ran what it ran and unfortunately randy is not with us to subdue some of the skeptics. Smh. Not sure what the issue is. The car had k16 billets, Ics, injectors , ebc and exhaust. It was lighter sure but so is everyone else trying to run fast. He then did the A28s and ran a 5.2 sec I think... same tune as a matter of fact... I didn't even have time to adjust it...
Last edited by markski@markskituning; 07-08-2015 at 01:21 PM.
#25
This car never ran at the 1/4 mile not sure where you got the 126 mph from.
There is no secrets here. The car ran what it ran and unfortunately randy is not with us to subdue some of the skeptics. Smh. Not sure what the issue is. The car had k16 billets, Ics, injectors , ebc and exhaust. It was lighter sure but so is everyone else trying to run fast. He then did the A28s and ran a 5.2 sec I think... same tune as a matter of fact... I didn't even have time to adjust it...
There is no secrets here. The car ran what it ran and unfortunately randy is not with us to subdue some of the skeptics. Smh. Not sure what the issue is. The car had k16 billets, Ics, injectors , ebc and exhaust. It was lighter sure but so is everyone else trying to run fast. He then did the A28s and ran a 5.2 sec I think... same tune as a matter of fact... I didn't even have time to adjust it...
his car WAS FAST
his car was light
he spent a lot of money on it not just a billet wheel you are trying to sell
was it Vivid 16G or was it "markski" billet or are they the same? who cares?
point is that the result you are selling in your OP doesn't exist.
your 5.86 ad should have an asterisk at the bottom that looks like this...
In order to replicate this 60-130 time:
*One must remove 340+ pounds from their car
**One must use R compound tires
***One must be OK with blown headgaskets
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997TT SilverSpool - 210.8 mph 1/2 Mile WR Apr 2019, 9.2 @ 168 mph 1/4 Mile Manual World Record , 3.15 60-130 mph , 2.72 100-150 mph , 1400whp E85
996TT SpoolBus - 204.6 mph 1/2 Mile 996TT WR Aug 2018, 9.5 @ 154 mph, 3.23 60-130 mph, 2.5 100-150 mph Manual Porsche World Record, 1400whp E85
997TT SlowBerry - 205.0 mph 1/2 Mile WR Nov 2018, 9.7 @ 170 mph 1/4 Mile , 3.2 60-130 mph , 2.4 100-150 mph , 1420whp E85
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#TeamAIM
997TT SilverSpool - 210.8 mph 1/2 Mile WR Apr 2019, 9.2 @ 168 mph 1/4 Mile Manual World Record , 3.15 60-130 mph , 2.72 100-150 mph , 1400whp E85
996TT SpoolBus - 204.6 mph 1/2 Mile 996TT WR Aug 2018, 9.5 @ 154 mph, 3.23 60-130 mph, 2.5 100-150 mph Manual Porsche World Record, 1400whp E85
997TT SlowBerry - 205.0 mph 1/2 Mile WR Nov 2018, 9.7 @ 170 mph 1/4 Mile , 3.2 60-130 mph , 2.4 100-150 mph , 1420whp E85
ESMOTOR | DO88 | TPC DSC | SYVECS | COBB | IPD | KLINE | XONA | AMS | ID | ERP | SACHS | TURBOSMART | CSF | DODSON |
#26
What road was he on? Where was the location? What was the da? How quick was the shift? What time and month was it? Was the moon full or a partial? What color was the car? Was it waxed or dirty?
The point is, the car had 16 billets. The tire, weight, and driver skill does not matter. It's the fact it was at "X" power level. What others do to improve performance by reducing weight or adding a tire is on them. And 350lbs is not worth that much performance on a roll run. Like adding 30 crank hp...so 17whp. Big deal.
The point is, the car had 16 billets. The tire, weight, and driver skill does not matter. It's the fact it was at "X" power level. What others do to improve performance by reducing weight or adding a tire is on them. And 350lbs is not worth that much performance on a roll run. Like adding 30 crank hp...so 17whp. Big deal.
#27
What road was he on? Where was the location? What was the da? How quick was the shift? What time and month was it? Was the moon full or a partial? What color was the car? Was it waxed or dirty?
The point is, the car had 16 billets. The tire, weight, and driver skill does not matter. It's the fact it was at "X" power level. What others do to improve performance by reducing weight or adding a tire is on them. And 350lbs is not worth that much performance on a roll run. Like adding 30 crank hp...so 17whp. Big deal.
The point is, the car had 16 billets. The tire, weight, and driver skill does not matter. It's the fact it was at "X" power level. What others do to improve performance by reducing weight or adding a tire is on them. And 350lbs is not worth that much performance on a roll run. Like adding 30 crank hp...so 17whp. Big deal.
first of all he ran a k16/18g mitsu wheel not a billet wheel . don't know how much difference but it is what it is. second weight reduction is a huge factor in any kind of racing you of all people should know that. heres his weight loss back in 2012. and lastly randy drove around with a 5 gal can of race gas in the front trunk until he went to corn. it was not unusual for him to run 1.5 bar around town . just his style
ap headers/ exhaust 25lb
recaro pole positions 45lb
tool kit/ spare 40lb
back seat delete/belts hardware 22lb
full custom ozite carpet 35lb
nardi wheel ( airbag delete ) 10lb
rear wiper/motor 3lb
rear bumper support 19lb
misha wing/ cf blade 5lb
odyssey battery 26lb
oz alegeritta rims 34lb
RWD convert 70lb
TOT 334 lb's
Current weight is 3065 lb.'s. Carbon hood and sunroof delete next year and I'll be
down 400 lb's!
from this point he dropped another 30 odd lbs. as you can see there wasn't much randy wouldn't remove to get the weight down. i own his car i can tell you this is a loud car from the inside. not your typical daily driver but it was what he wanted.
tire weight and driver skill have everything to do with reaching great 60 to 130 or 1/4 ,mile times. if that wasn't any factor every joe blow with 100k$ to drop on a lambo or gtr would be at the top of the list. not even close.
i don't have any ax to grind or anything to gain. but if folks are going to speak of randy ill make sure its accurate, he always thought very highly of markski i will say that
heres some weight to power calcs from the weight loss sticky
Weight....actual HP.........lbs/hp.............relative power
3500.......500.................7.0................ .500
3400.......500.................6.8................ .514.7
3300.......500.................6.6................ .530.3
3200.......500.................6.4................ .546.9
3100.......500.................6.2................ .564.5
3000.......500.................6.0................ .583.3
looks like about 65hp inc not 30 and thats a significant inc for weight loss
Last edited by 32krazy!; 07-08-2015 at 05:18 PM.
#28
It seems to me this ought to be easy to solve, duplicate or near duplicate the performance and document it? If the times and power are the basis for an advertisement then this ought to be doable right? No one would argue that billet K16 make serious power(shrug)
#29
Guys, I can see both sides of the argument. Here is my point of view... Back before I got my 996TT I was already researching what route I would take in my modding. The info on this particular car was very well known even at that time. I thought it was really impressive that with so few engine mods a 996TT could run that time.
Again, back before I even bought my 996TT....I looked over the K16 kit on Markski's website (as well as other tuners' kits) and I contacted him for more information. The turbocharger upgrade to k16 billet wheels itself might be $1500 but the whole package with tune and injectors is about double that (I diy but for those who don't ++$$ for labor). Three g's might not be a whole lot of money to some but I would never just by anything like this without asking more about the setup (I don't think anyone would). Markski told me right away that the car had about 300lbs of weight reduction, IC's, plenum, boost controller, high octane, exhaust,+ couple other things. He was very honest about the rest of the mods done to the car.
I guess my point is, I don't think anyone is arguing that the car ran 60-130 in 5.86 with K16 billets...this is pretty well known. I also think that even with the weight reduction and the supporting mods it's still pretty darned impressive. I don't think anyone would actually buy his k16 kit nor any other tuners' k16 kit without confirming what exactly went into a particular claim/car/combo. Just my .02
Again, back before I even bought my 996TT....I looked over the K16 kit on Markski's website (as well as other tuners' kits) and I contacted him for more information. The turbocharger upgrade to k16 billet wheels itself might be $1500 but the whole package with tune and injectors is about double that (I diy but for those who don't ++$$ for labor). Three g's might not be a whole lot of money to some but I would never just by anything like this without asking more about the setup (I don't think anyone would). Markski told me right away that the car had about 300lbs of weight reduction, IC's, plenum, boost controller, high octane, exhaust,+ couple other things. He was very honest about the rest of the mods done to the car.
I guess my point is, I don't think anyone is arguing that the car ran 60-130 in 5.86 with K16 billets...this is pretty well known. I also think that even with the weight reduction and the supporting mods it's still pretty darned impressive. I don't think anyone would actually buy his k16 kit nor any other tuners' k16 kit without confirming what exactly went into a particular claim/car/combo. Just my .02
Last edited by gophaster; 07-08-2015 at 06:16 PM.
#30
It was the same with me when I enquired about the K15 billets. Markski was very upfront in explaining the details of the car making the fast 60-130 time. To me it didn't matter. I wanted upgraded K16 turbos, a better tune than my 1.0 bar tune, and above all great customer service. I wanted a fast car but not one that would require an engine upgrade. Markski worked with me for nearly 4 months while I fixed various issues with my car. I live in a relatively small town with no Indy shops who really know the 996t and Markski helped me fix various issues with my car at no extra charge. I made multiple 3rd gear data runs to dial in my car and he did not settle for just ok. Initially there was an issue and with investigation it was determined to be another boost leak and issue with my spark plugs. Again he spent a significant amount of time giving me suggestions and reading my log data at no additional charge. His customer service is second to none. I believe most people who get the K16 billets, tune, and injectors will never record a 60-130 time like myself. However, my car was dramatically transformed to a beast that I can drive everyday and get 25 mpg on the interstate. Just my 0.02 cents.