To the experts,
Someone pointed me to this company (http://www.dimsport.it/en/race), their tools seems very interesting, I was wondering if any US based tuners use them?

 

It's nice for what it is. It's a delivery tool and popular in Europe. You still need tuning software and support. The Cobb gives you more and more tuners support it. Great value and support. Let me know if I can help out.

 

like Sam said its pretty popular - we use a few of their products for both OBD2 tuning as well as flash tuning. keep in mind its only 1 piece of a pretty big puzzle

 

Sam,
Thanks for the offer, I am pretty happy with my current tune. Being an embedded SW guy, I am always looking at new tools, and pretty much understand the processes involved here.

The interesting thing they claim is that they are able to over-write the security encryption of Motronic boxes, and that got my attention.

 

Cheers

Yeah I hear you. There are several tools like that also and they can be quite useful. Especially with various makes and models. But in certain platforms there are always a few that shine. Variety is always good!

 

Dimsport is the same hand held tool Markski/911tuning uses to upload their files. It's purely a delivery method, no files included.

 

More secrets of the "flash software" markets being exposed. Good to know.

 

Dimsport has been around for years and are usually one of the first with OBD flashing support out there for many cars. Tuning itself happens outside of the software in hex editor such as WinOLS that are made to work with automotive calibration/maps. There are also canned tunes out there that some so called tuners simply flash on the cars without knowing what they actually do as they never saw them or adjusted them in any way nor would they know how to. Those modified files can then be loaded on the ECU through a number of flashing tools, Dimsport included. Genius is the handheld Dimpsport has for loading flash tunes via OBD port.

We prefer the convenience of a Cobb AP for its datalogging and live gauge/monitoring capabilities without needing a laptop in the car. On many platforms Cobb also adds features to the factory ECU programming that simply aren't available from the factory at all for adjustment (e.g. steering wheel map switching, rolling anti-lag, tuning for higher than stock boost/airflow levels, etc.).

Dzenno@PTF

 

We use dimsport everyday, very good for what we do.

 

Dimsport offers remote flashing and also base tuning with entry level maps. I dont use their tuning software due to the limited maps offered. Usually they supply 8 to 10 maps just to get the car going but far what you really have to do to get it right. But the remote flashing is great...
Winols is the way to go but you need the Damos files....

 

A pro tuner will use winols with a definition file, it provides the most flexibility and fine tuning over any in-between tool such as the cobb,maestro etc. It also allows the addition of code in empty memory space for features like antilag, rolling antilag, speed density (aka mafless).

 

How many protuners out there do you know of that are capable of doing anything more than changing values in tables exposed in a damos file changing assembly instructions in the firmware and define new tables in empty memory spaces for new functionality? I'll answer that for you, very few to none. If we go by shear numbers of so called tuners out there most by far know how to just import a canned file over a stock file and provide an update, period full stop, never had a car on the dyno and never actually tried to tune them to get the most reliable/consistent power out of them.

 

Are you asking in general how many or making a statement about how many people I actually know? I know quite a few in fact my vag specialist in NY is adding rolling antilag support for me7.8 as I type. They just finished writing it for me7.1

 

In that case you've got a keeper there

 

Since you brought this up, changing instruction code and.or adding will change the total check-sum as I assume, so in this case you have to also know where the SW does the self-diagnostic and computes the check-sum vs. the magic number stored in the flash somewhere.

This would suggest your tuner has extensive knowledge of the Bosch SW and its architecture, this is amazing to me (being a SW guy myself).

I normally make our embedded SW run a diagnostic check every so often when the system is in so called idle state to make sure nothing is wrong. I assume Bosch engineers also do the same