View Poll Results: Which is the best?
EVOMS
2
4.88%
Softronic
2
4.88%
GIAC
0
0%
VRtuned
0
0%
Other?
37
90.24%
Voters: 41. You may not vote on this poll
ECU FLASH. It's about to be 2016...Which is the best?
#31
cheers, you'll forget about that 350z in no time!
#32
Wow, the options given in this poll suck, haha. I believe VRtuned is just re-branded Softronic anyways.
I am quite happy with my EPL tune, but I do believe that COBB is the best solution in 2016. If it were available when I did my tune, I would have gone COBB
I am quite happy with my EPL tune, but I do believe that COBB is the best solution in 2016. If it were available when I did my tune, I would have gone COBB
#33
thats because out of the 4 choices 3 of them suck moose *****!
its truly funny everybody brags on epl evoms yes even cobb as the BEST tunes out there yet everybody has forgotten the OG of tuners todd knighton of protomotive. he was tuning these cars when ALL the others were still tuning audis and vw's
its truly funny everybody brags on epl evoms yes even cobb as the BEST tunes out there yet everybody has forgotten the OG of tuners todd knighton of protomotive. he was tuning these cars when ALL the others were still tuning audis and vw's
#34
There are definitely several options. I have and still work with most all of them. Some better than others but one important fact is to see which suits your needs. That and a reputable name are key in my opinion. If I can be of any assistance feel free to drop a line anytime.
#35
i have had m/b and porsches. i have used oe tuning, eurocharged, epl ,giac and proefi. i was never satisfied with any of the tuners customer service and the ability of the computers until i went standalone. its not for everybody but if you want the safest best fastest dataloging setup thats the way to go. my tuner is always available and his customer service is second to none.
Last edited by 32krazy!; 12-18-2015 at 05:31 PM.
#36
Seems like these "vote on tune" posts just keep coming up , and wondering how much you think things really change? Most people only have experience with their one tune, so obviously post/vote for their tune...They just had this one a couple years ago and same thing, only more tunes were covered. Also this platform is getting older so I wonder how much NEW is going on?
The LAST "Which Tune" survey FWIW....
DC
The LAST "Which Tune" survey FWIW....
DC
Last edited by therock88; 12-19-2015 at 02:51 AM.
#37
^^ this. And the best post in the entire thread, post #3 by Mark (02996ttx50).
Asking a question the way the OP put it is not going to lead to a concise, helpful answer. A bit like saying: "I'm having dinner. What's the best wine?"
Steve (32krazy), the OP does not define what he's planning on doing, but he does say that a "tune is the best bang for the buck". That sounds much more like software and maybe something like an air filter (which I wouldn't even do, but it seems popular enough - air filter). Def not standalone territory. And I am not considering a standalone because I want my car to be so versatile, that if my wife drives it to Brussels and has a problem, she'd actually be able to get help instead of a tech taking one look at the car and going: OMG WTF?
OP, if I interpreted your wants correctly - mainly SW and not much else - then you'll likely be in good hands $-wise, service-wise, and performance-wise if you go to any of the guys who are active and helpful here on the forum: Markski, Kevin/UMW, Sambott, Tony@EPL. This not because one is better than another but because they know the market/industry and will listen to you and fill your needs.
You may get a better deal, though, from Switzer, Protomotive, or Evoms. Or I may have forgotten a major player in either list. Add to that, that with the exception of a very small number of folks here, people have dealt with one tuner. So getting a trend on an objective comparison is impossible.
You'd be better off saying: I am planning on doing such and such, my budget is approx $xyz, and I'd like to achieve such and such. Who has done similar? With what tuner? Good/bad experience?
My 2cents.
Asking a question the way the OP put it is not going to lead to a concise, helpful answer. A bit like saying: "I'm having dinner. What's the best wine?"
Steve (32krazy), the OP does not define what he's planning on doing, but he does say that a "tune is the best bang for the buck". That sounds much more like software and maybe something like an air filter (which I wouldn't even do, but it seems popular enough - air filter). Def not standalone territory. And I am not considering a standalone because I want my car to be so versatile, that if my wife drives it to Brussels and has a problem, she'd actually be able to get help instead of a tech taking one look at the car and going: OMG WTF?
OP, if I interpreted your wants correctly - mainly SW and not much else - then you'll likely be in good hands $-wise, service-wise, and performance-wise if you go to any of the guys who are active and helpful here on the forum: Markski, Kevin/UMW, Sambott, Tony@EPL. This not because one is better than another but because they know the market/industry and will listen to you and fill your needs.
You may get a better deal, though, from Switzer, Protomotive, or Evoms. Or I may have forgotten a major player in either list. Add to that, that with the exception of a very small number of folks here, people have dealt with one tuner. So getting a trend on an objective comparison is impossible.
You'd be better off saying: I am planning on doing such and such, my budget is approx $xyz, and I'd like to achieve such and such. Who has done similar? With what tuner? Good/bad experience?
My 2cents.
Last edited by stevemfr; 12-19-2015 at 06:22 AM.
#38
Steve (32krazy), the OP does not define what he's planning on doing, but he does say that a "tune is the best bang for the buck". That sounds much more like software and maybe something like an air filter (which I wouldn't even do, but it seems popular enough)(I mean air filter). Def not standalone territory. And I am not considering a standalone because I want my car to be so versatile, that if my wife drives it to Brussels and has a problem, she'd actually be able to get help instead of a tech taking one look at the car and going: OMG WTF?
i agree partially with what your saying. having standalone does mean the average tech would be lost. of course the average tech wouldn't touch my car no matter who is driving it. thats what AAA is for.
OP, if I interpreted your wants correctly - mainly SW and not much else - then you'll likely be in good hands $-wise, service-wise, and performance-wise if you go to any of the guys who are active and helpful here on the forum: Markski, Kevin/UMW, Sambott, Tony@EPL. This not because one is better than another but because they know the market/industry and will listen to you and fill your needs. You may get a better deal from Switzer, Protomotive, or Evoms. Or I may have forgotten a major player in either list. Add to that, that with the exception of a very small number of folks here, people have dealt with one tuner. So getting a trend on an objective comparison is impossible.
My 2cents.
i agree partially with what your saying. having standalone does mean the average tech would be lost. of course the average tech wouldn't touch my car no matter who is driving it. thats what AAA is for.
OP, if I interpreted your wants correctly - mainly SW and not much else - then you'll likely be in good hands $-wise, service-wise, and performance-wise if you go to any of the guys who are active and helpful here on the forum: Markski, Kevin/UMW, Sambott, Tony@EPL. This not because one is better than another but because they know the market/industry and will listen to you and fill your needs. You may get a better deal from Switzer, Protomotive, or Evoms. Or I may have forgotten a major player in either list. Add to that, that with the exception of a very small number of folks here, people have dealt with one tuner. So getting a trend on an objective comparison is impossible.
My 2cents.
Last edited by 32krazy!; 12-19-2015 at 06:26 AM.
#39
Yes I know about Jack Raby and Charles Navarro - I come from the air-cooled world.
Being present on the board does not require an ad budget. In the grand scheme, becoming a board sponsor is cheap. The amount of time invested may not be. I think a lot has to do with a persons personality, business philosophy, and focus, though. And I wasn't necessarily touting the one or the other - that is why I said he might be better at Switzer et al. I see it kind of like the ebay 98% rule: all of the guys mentioned have supporters, not too many have some detractors. I am quite sure for a simple tune the OP would be well off with just about anyone mentioned in this entire thread. He might be slightly better off with one or another, but he's not going to get that answer the way the original question (poll) was posed. He might get a somewhat representative answer for which tuner is king of the popularity list if enough people vote in the poll. That will likely not help him get the best tune for his needs, tho.
All interesting and surely worth a discussion, but not necessarily answering the OP's question. :-)) (BTW, Just in case that didn't read through clearly, I agree completely that being present here does not reflect on qualifications)
He needs to define what he is looking for and ask for reports on similar experiences. IMO about the only way he's going to get any helpful replies.
Being present on the board does not require an ad budget. In the grand scheme, becoming a board sponsor is cheap. The amount of time invested may not be. I think a lot has to do with a persons personality, business philosophy, and focus, though. And I wasn't necessarily touting the one or the other - that is why I said he might be better at Switzer et al. I see it kind of like the ebay 98% rule: all of the guys mentioned have supporters, not too many have some detractors. I am quite sure for a simple tune the OP would be well off with just about anyone mentioned in this entire thread. He might be slightly better off with one or another, but he's not going to get that answer the way the original question (poll) was posed. He might get a somewhat representative answer for which tuner is king of the popularity list if enough people vote in the poll. That will likely not help him get the best tune for his needs, tho.
All interesting and surely worth a discussion, but not necessarily answering the OP's question. :-)) (BTW, Just in case that didn't read through clearly, I agree completely that being present here does not reflect on qualifications)
He needs to define what he is looking for and ask for reports on similar experiences. IMO about the only way he's going to get any helpful replies.
Last edited by stevemfr; 12-19-2015 at 07:09 AM.
#40
Yes I know about Jack Raby and Charles Navarro - I come from the air-cooled world.
Being present on the board does not require an ad budget. In the grand scheme, becoming a board sponsor is cheap. The amount of time invested may not be. I think a lot has to do with a persons personality, business philosophy, and focus, though. And I wasn't necessarily touting the one or the other - that is why I said he might be better at Switzer et al. I see it kind of like the ebay 98% rule: all of the guys mentioned have supporters, not too many have some detractors. I am quite sure for a simple tune the OP would be well off with just about anyone mentioned in this entire thread. He might be slightly better off with one or another, but he's not going to get that answer the way the original question (poll) was posed. He might get a somewhat representative answer for which tuner is king of the popularity list if enough people vote in the poll. That will likely not help him get the best tune for his needs, tho.
All interesting and surely worth a discussion, but not necessarily answering the OP's question. :-)) (BTW, Just in case that didn't read through clearly, I agree completely that being present here does not reflect on qualifications)
He needs to define what he is looking for and ask for reports on similar experiences. IMO about the only way he's going to get any helpful replies.
Being present on the board does not require an ad budget. In the grand scheme, becoming a board sponsor is cheap. The amount of time invested may not be. I think a lot has to do with a persons personality, business philosophy, and focus, though. And I wasn't necessarily touting the one or the other - that is why I said he might be better at Switzer et al. I see it kind of like the ebay 98% rule: all of the guys mentioned have supporters, not too many have some detractors. I am quite sure for a simple tune the OP would be well off with just about anyone mentioned in this entire thread. He might be slightly better off with one or another, but he's not going to get that answer the way the original question (poll) was posed. He might get a somewhat representative answer for which tuner is king of the popularity list if enough people vote in the poll. That will likely not help him get the best tune for his needs, tho.
All interesting and surely worth a discussion, but not necessarily answering the OP's question. :-)) (BTW, Just in case that didn't read through clearly, I agree completely that being present here does not reflect on qualifications)
He needs to define what he is looking for and ask for reports on similar experiences. IMO about the only way he's going to get any helpful replies.
its a tough choice for most owners who want more power but really aren't ready for the associated costs that go with modding these cars. a simple tune is the first step to full on builds! (of course that would never happen to me!:roll eyes:)
#41
I have a great experience whit marinski 911 tuning.com 996 tt stage 3 k16g 5bar tune the suport is awesome he answer my questions any hour 10 am 12 am also i am at tune 23 so for the inital price no extra cost i have many tune options i make changes all months add new parts
Great suport and same attention on my 997 turbo i am happy whit the suport whit marinski
Great suport and same attention on my 997 turbo i am happy whit the suport whit marinski
#42
+1 for Markski
I have K16 Billets, injectors, IPD, and tune.
His customer support is second to none.
He has dialed in my car with many different tunes (no add'l charge) after reviewing my Durametric loggings. The car has been transformed, does great at the track, and still gets 24-25 MPG cruising on the interstate.
I have K16 Billets, injectors, IPD, and tune.
His customer support is second to none.
He has dialed in my car with many different tunes (no add'l charge) after reviewing my Durametric loggings. The car has been transformed, does great at the track, and still gets 24-25 MPG cruising on the interstate.
#44
I originally had a name brand tune on my 996T and it was good but nothing great. It was a standard 1.0 bar with no tweaks using Durametric logging.
The improvement was night and day going to a Markski 1.2 bar tune tweaked with Durametric loggings.
The improvement was night and day going to a Markski 1.2 bar tune tweaked with Durametric loggings.