The Rematch: Alex's 996TT vs. Darius' TT Viper (previously owned by Gary Javo)
Originally Posted by Craig
Out of respect to Gary Javo, and without any commentary, I am cutting and pasting the following message posted by Gary on Viper Alley that he apparently tried to post here, but was unable to:
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"I tried to go over to their site, but it wouldn't let me register. It said my email was banned by the admin...
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=41831
I was going to tell them that I have nothing against Porsches or losing, but I want Alex to give Darius a fair shake at the next race, including clearly defined starting and stopping points, and conditions that are not skewed towards an AWD car. I know the Porsche has less than half the displacement of the GTS, and that is truely impressive, but it also adds to the problem. Darius is sort of in a lose lose situation in some ways. If he wins, well so what, he was racing a tt v10 up against a little 6. If he loses, holy ****!! That 6 cylinder just BBQed(My God that's a ****ing obnoxious video) the TT v10 500 CID Viper!!! You see, either way, the odds are against Darius, IMO. At any rate. I love racing and watching the different outcomes between different machines. It is MHO that this Porsche in it's current configuration will get walked by this viper. That's nothing against the 996. I am really impressed that the 996 kept up as well as it did!! Congrats on an extremely fast P-car."
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"I tried to go over to their site, but it wouldn't let me register. It said my email was banned by the admin...
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=41831
I was going to tell them that I have nothing against Porsches or losing, but I want Alex to give Darius a fair shake at the next race, including clearly defined starting and stopping points, and conditions that are not skewed towards an AWD car. I know the Porsche has less than half the displacement of the GTS, and that is truely impressive, but it also adds to the problem. Darius is sort of in a lose lose situation in some ways. If he wins, well so what, he was racing a tt v10 up against a little 6. If he loses, holy ****!! That 6 cylinder just BBQed(My God that's a ****ing obnoxious video) the TT v10 500 CID Viper!!! You see, either way, the odds are against Darius, IMO. At any rate. I love racing and watching the different outcomes between different machines. It is MHO that this Porsche in it's current configuration will get walked by this viper. That's nothing against the 996. I am really impressed that the 996 kept up as well as it did!! Congrats on an extremely fast P-car."
-Greg
Originally Posted by wheresursfl
I agree with what Gary is saying here. The Viper has everything to lose and nothing to gain except that he beat a 6 cyc. While the porsche has everything to gain he wins he beat v10 car, he loses he lost to a v10 car. Tough situation and a lot of respect for both of them for racing. I look forward to seeing the end result.
-Greg
-Greg
Again, as I like to say, if I'm smart enough to be able to afford $150K cars, then I'm smart enough to buy car rags and know what else is on the market. I wasn't disappointed to learn that in some categories, a stock Viper might edge out my stock Porsche, and in the categories that the Porsche gets the nod, I am fully prepared for the explanation that, for twice the price, my Porsche should win all contests against all Vipers.
Originally Posted by VRAlexander
Well here it is guys, the only good runs.... I was traction limited all night to 1.5bar, due to the fog....the RX-7 had drag radials and he was the only vehicle hooking up all the power...
http://www.fasttrackperformance.com/...OS LS1 RX7.wmv
enjoy..
Darius (Gary Javo's old) twin turbo viper will race sometimes next week when he gets his Drag Radials (this way there are no traction issues or excuses)...
http://www.fasttrackperformance.com/...OS LS1 RX7.wmv
enjoy..
Darius (Gary Javo's old) twin turbo viper will race sometimes next week when he gets his Drag Radials (this way there are no traction issues or excuses)...

in viperalley someone claimed Darius said Alex let off just as the Viper was starting to stretch his legs.. then Craig says both say they let off due to the unsafe conditions. That comment made the Viper owners say it's a win for the Viper..
Maybe that should be cleared up before those jokers jump to their 1/4miler conclusions... until the rematch rematch anyway with conclusive results.
Maybe that should be cleared up before those jokers jump to their 1/4miler conclusions... until the rematch rematch anyway with conclusive results.
i have the video which shows that alex car looses to the heffner tt viper from darius. heres the link: http://www.servinitup.com/gallery/albums/stuff/race.wmv
Originally Posted by 997GT2
i have the video which shows that alex car looses to the heffner tt viper from darius. heres the link: http://www.servinitup.com/gallery/albums/stuff/race.wmv
Originally Posted by VRAlexander
Well here it is guys, the only good runs.... I was traction limited all night to 1.5bar, due to the fog....the RX-7 had drag radials and he was the only vehicle hooking up all the power...
http://www.fasttrackperformance.com/...OS LS1 RX7.wmv
enjoy..
Darius (Gary Javo's old) twin turbo viper will race sometimes next week when he gets his Drag Radials (this way there are no traction issues or excuses)...
http://www.fasttrackperformance.com/...OS LS1 RX7.wmv
enjoy..
Darius (Gary Javo's old) twin turbo viper will race sometimes next week when he gets his Drag Radials (this way there are no traction issues or excuses)...

Originally Posted by dr_sharp
Yes someone needs clarify who is racing in the vids... alex spanks the RX-7 in the video he posted but who is racing in the video posted by 997GT2?
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Originally Posted by vincentdds
Alex lost and let off all 3 times. Dairus' Viper pulled on him hard.
I also have several Videos where it shows the Porsche pulling away from the Viper (here the tables are reveresed, he said that he had traction issues)....however we agreed (apparently Darius forgot about this!!) not to post any video untill we had a opportunity to run our cars on a clear day with plenty of traction. That way there are no excuses and we would not start drama on the two boards about what occured but rather have clear video (and hopefully a hand shake acknowledging the winner) that we could post on the two boards. This is suppose to take place next week when Darius gets his Drag Radials. The deal was to run from a 40mph roll on.
I am disapointed in Darius for not living up to his hand shake to keep all Videos Private until we raced next time. On the other hand I can see his EGO posting the videos....I just hope he follows through on the rest of our deal and shown up next weekend..
Last edited by VRAlexander; Feb 7, 2006 at 09:21 PM.
Originally Posted by VRAlexander
I just watched the video that Darius posted on the Viper board racing against me on Saturday night. We tried to race about a dozen times, each time we had traction issues. The Video in question shows several runs from HIS point of view. I one particular run, I hooked in 3rd gear and started to pull the Viper, then powershifted into 4h and lost traction (if you listen to the video, you can hear this!!). At that point I HAD TO LIFT or risk wrecking my car (this is where the Viper started to gain). I am confindent that If I had traction in 4th, I would have continued to pull away....I then adjusted my boost down to 1.5bar where I was getting traction and raced the RX-7 several times.
I also have several Videos where it shows the Porsche pulling away from the Viper (here the tables are reveresed, he said that he had traction issues)....however we agreed (apparently Darius forgot about this!!) not to post any video untill we had a opportunity to run our cars on a clear day with plenty of traction. That way there are no excuses and we would not start drama on the two boards about what occured but rather have clear video (and hopefully a hand shake acknowledging the winner) that we could post on the two boards. This is suppose to take place next week when Darius gets his Drag Radials. The deal was to run from a 40mph roll on.
I am disapointed in Darius for not living up to his hand shake to keep all Videos Private until we raced next time. On the other had I can see his EGO posting the videos....I just hope he follows through on the rest of our deal and shown up next weekend..
I also have several Videos where it shows the Porsche pulling away from the Viper (here the tables are reveresed, he said that he had traction issues)....however we agreed (apparently Darius forgot about this!!) not to post any video untill we had a opportunity to run our cars on a clear day with plenty of traction. That way there are no excuses and we would not start drama on the two boards about what occured but rather have clear video (and hopefully a hand shake acknowledging the winner) that we could post on the two boards. This is suppose to take place next week when Darius gets his Drag Radials. The deal was to run from a 40mph roll on.
I am disapointed in Darius for not living up to his hand shake to keep all Videos Private until we raced next time. On the other had I can see his EGO posting the videos....I just hope he follows through on the rest of our deal and shown up next weekend..







