Damm your setup was crazy, cannot wait! Thing is Mark, i dont see how people go to K16/24 hybrid or any of the hybrids that are only good for 580-600 hp, my k16's are around there now and that's stock, why wouldnt someone go with turbo's that have alot more capability is beyond me!

 

Mark is right on here. Most of you guys know the lag in the K16 or K24 is nothing like the turbos of old (like my '78 930). Anyway...the question you need to ask yourself is what do YOU want? If you want to go better than 600hp then you need bigger than K16 (hybrid or not), if not the hybrids are a good choice. Kevin makes them for a number of tuners. As far as programming goes...well GIAC is by far the most popular, but there are others as well. Kevin also has his own programming. I'm guessing to trully optimize the "system" you need your programming tweaked to your conditions, but the others will certainly work. Oh yeah, I don't mind Mark's spelling either...guess I'm used to it cause I read most of his posts.

 

Also, if you want to go over 600HP or so, you should be thinking about strengthening the internals. At stage 4 / 600 HP just the sound of the motor at WOT lets you know it is being pushed very hard.

 

I thought there was no need for internal work until after GT640-700!!

 

iLLM3,

It is recommended by Stephen at 640. That's what I meant by over 600 - 640 is the next step.

This is the footnote on the 640 package on the IA website:

"Cars used as daily drivers with this kit are recommended to have internals of the engine strengthened."

 

Rods go after 650 rwhp... Im not speaking because Im speculating... greater minds then I speak so....
I would do the internals at 600 rwhp or higher.

 

All things being equal, for instance a stage 2 car with aftermarket muffler and ECU, stock intake and stock headers, what would be the power difference (93 octane) between K16's VS k16/24's VS Kevin's stage 2 K16/26's?

Marksi, weren't your stage 5's K24/26 hybrids?

 

Ahh, thanks for the info John/Mark!

 

This is what Gary (FL) did with his car, correct?

 

I have used BOTH K16/K24 hybrids and Kevin's ZC Stage V K16/K26 hybrids. BOTH were great turbos with very little lag. Speed Gallery sells both turbos, with matched programming.

Craig

 

Stock K-24's are "kind of flakey" according to Todd @ Protomotive,
so many better options now, like what EVOMS uses in their GT640 kit,
etc. With so many options, unless your car came with K-24's, you would
not be wise to go with K-24's... In my humble opinion! They work fine,
but many options with even more flow. I myself also am not worried about
lag--because it is so minimal in these cars when set up correctly.


MK

 

Wots rong wyth his speling?

 

+1

 

Ryan, I'm sorry to nit pick, but you spelled "his" incorrectly.

Craig

 

HAHAHAHAH...dats two dayum phunny...