That's why I always carry one of these with me everywhere I go/type

 

 

Holy crap, you guys are cruel!

 

[quote=ebaker]All things being equal, for instance a stage 2 car with aftermarket muffler and ECU, stock intake and stock headers, what would be the power difference (93 octane) between K16's VS k16/24's VS Kevin's stage 2 K16/26's?

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i am looking to do kevins hybrid k16/24's non-zero clr

my goal is to get 600hp at crank... I was told they spool faster then my stock k16s on giac and better for my goal then garrett's gt640

looking forward to see what happens with them.. oh yea, i will consider buying a pre-owned set of kevins 16/24's if anyones selling em : ?

dw

 

Could use a word or two of clarification.
I am shopping for a 996TT, and have two cars in sight, an '02 and an '04 X50. Considering that I would only very mildly tune the car (GIAC flash, PSS9), am I better off with the standard TT's K16 or with the X50's K24 ?
Is the lag difference noticeable in real world terms ?
Is an X50 worth any premium ?

 

Here is a video I've took last summer. The camera car "Black TT" is K24 GIAC, V-flow, Mine "Yellow TT" is K16, GIAC, V-Flow, Ruf exhaust. You can clearly see the turbo lag between K24 and K16

http://tunertrader.vidiac.com/catego...120018f997.htm

 

Was the lag any worse on the k16/26 over the k16/24's. I have wondered this for a while?

 

I had this dilemia as well. I decided to go with the k16/24.

 

Just to add another option. I went with the Protomotive 24/18G hybrid turbos on my 02 X50 car. With the other mods from Protomotive my car rolls. As far as lag: the stock 2001 TT with the 16's I test drove had less lag than the 02 X50 car I purchased. It also had less power. I knew keeping the car stock was not going to be an option for me. So I started with a little more lag, more stock power (X50), and a better starting point for the mods. My hybrid turbos with exchange and new WG's pre set was $1,400.00. Now I have less lag than the stock X50 and a lot more power. I drove the car with the ECU, 5 bar reg, Fabspeed, BMC filter, and new BOV's for a few days then had the Hybrid Protomotive 24/18G's installed. The 24/18's ROCK! I can tell you from my experience If you start with more you will end up with more for less money. ZE shark get the X50. Test drive both but in the "real" world the lag difference is not much and in a short sprint you would still pull past a stock K16 car. Oh..... and like my friend Markski, I didn't realize helping fellow members was an english test.

 

For me, worse than turbo lag is the turbo threshold, they're obviously related but many confuse these two aspects.

 

you can get a smoothed over k24/26 with vitually no difference in lag in comparison to the k16/24's and have gobs of torque through the mid and top end. I tried all three and hands down the k24/26 have much more to offer.

 

+1

I think the "fear of lag" is overated, and I do believe that large turbos
combined with the correct programming will work beautifully!!
(i.e., you can have different lag characteristics using the same turbos on a
car by changing a group of elements within a program). This is one of the things Todd K (Protomotive) will ask a customer; where do you want your power ???

You need these (K24/K26)...

 

Oak, can you give some more details about the k24/26 turbos? Such as whp and torque figures, do you happen to have a dyno? thx

 

I have said this before and Ill say it again... how come no one complains about GT2s being laggy... and yet it comes with k24s...
You guys don't get one thing... smaller turbos spool up quick but have a short power band via the rpm range... whats the use of having a turbo that has 1700 rpms of power?
I want a turbo that will pull from 3rd gear on forward..... so who cares about an extra 500 rpms of lag? Im already in the power band by then anyways..
markski

 

Can someone kindly point me to references on K16/24, K24/26, 24/18 and other models ? I am not too sure I understand this hybrid turbo thing.
Perhaps no one complains about GT2s having more lag because customers have different expectations and usage patterns ?
Is an X50 really a better base for light tuning ?