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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 12:13 PM
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As Ryan stated above, all things equal you will run your quickest 60-130 on a down slope... Ideally enough traction to be at the limit with cold air, low humidity and a decline.
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by houstonT
As Ryan stated above, all things equal you will run your quickest 60-130 on a down slope... Ideally enough traction to be at the limit with cold air, low humidity and a decline.
Peter

Absolutely. I'm sure that particular moment in time, if I was on any slope, I would have done better than a 6.61. Traction has ALWAYS been my nemesis. Getting warmer here, so I will be going out again here in a week or two.
 
Old Apr 16, 2009 | 01:17 PM
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You gotta come to Cali bro. I know this particular place with a nice 2.99 decline away from CHP and close to home ON the speed way I hit a 6.3 which was flat with two shifts and with the 2.99 decline with one shift I hit the 6.14. Don't forget with two shifts you come at full boost but the trick remains in shifting again.

Originally Posted by ttboost
It's not even consistantly 60F here yet!!! Today and tomorrow are beautiful, maybe 70 tomorrow!!! I've been hunting for a 2.99 just to take advantage of the rules, and as it turns out my fastest 60-130 time is PERFECTLY flat?!! I think it was .00606%. Go figure!!!
 

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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by art4iza
You gotta come to Cali bro. I know this particular place with a nice 2.99 decline away from CHP and close to home ON the speed way I hit a 6.3 which was flat with two shifts and with the 2.99 decline with one shift I hit the 6.14. Don't forget with two shifts you come at full boost but the trick remains in shifting again.

Yeah, I wish I could go back to Cali with my car... it's been a while since I was there.

BTW, if you have brake boosting, you don't need 2 shifts
 
Old Apr 16, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by TXGold
The temp here in Houston. It was about 60F. I need it to be in the 40's to improve my time any. Since everyone seems to be trying to use the -2.99% gradient to their advantage, cold temps and a 2% or better neg gradient would surely get my time lower than 7.92.

As Ben said, it will be another 6 months before temps get that low.
I think it's kind of sad that people have to seek out the max downslope to get their best time.
Kind of like looking for the most optimistic dyno, just to have a bigger number.

Cars run what they run.
For crying out loud, what happens when someone rolls up on you, are you going to say "hey, let's wait for about a mile, there's a nice hill coming!"

Not directed at you, TXGold, just at the mindset above, which does definitely exist.
 
Old Apr 16, 2009 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by vrybad
For crying out loud, what happens when someone rolls up on you, are you going to say "hey, let's wait for about a mile, there's a nice hill coming!"

Well, yeah!!! Some of us need all the advantages we can get...
 
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Originally Posted by ttboost
Well, yeah!!! Some of us need all the advantages we can get...
YOU CERTAINLY DON'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(change your sig already, would ya?!
It's a 6.61. )
 
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Mr. Vrybad,
FYI: Scott had my time recorded as 7.3 on a 3.7% incline, 6.3 on a dead flat road, and 6.14 on 2.99 decline. Next time, I will make sure that you see a sub 5 on a flat road

Originally Posted by vrybad
I think it's kind of sad that people have to seek out the max downslope to get their best time.
Kind of like looking for the most optimistic dyno, just to have a bigger number.

Cars run what they run.
For crying out loud, what happens when someone rolls up on you, are you going to say "hey, let's wait for about a mile, there's a nice hill coming!"

Not directed at you, TXGold, just at the mindset above, which does definitely exist.
 
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Are you serious? That's what competition is all about...figuring out a way to go the quickest/fastest within the rules as defined. Just like ALLLLLLL the quickest/fastest passes are made in Maryland at the drag strip...there is no other strip in the US that runs like that and it happens to have a negative DA often coupled with good track prep...therefore resulting in people running their best 1/4 mile time. You think they don't count their time b/c it was run on a freakishly fast track? Of course they do... Same thing here.
Peter

Originally Posted by vrybad
I think it's kind of sad that people have to seek out the max downslope to get their best time.
Kind of like looking for the most optimistic dyno, just to have a bigger number.

Cars run what they run.
For crying out loud, what happens when someone rolls up on you, are you going to say "hey, let's wait for about a mile, there's a nice hill coming!"

Not directed at you, TXGold, just at the mindset above, which does definitely exist.
 
Old Apr 16, 2009 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by houstonT
Are you serious? That's what competition is all about...figuring out a way to go the quickest/fastest within the rules as defined. Just like ALLLLLLL the quickest/fastest passes are made in Maryland at the drag strip...there is no other strip in the US that runs like that and it happens to have a negative DA often coupled with good track prep...therefore resulting in people running their best 1/4 mile time. You think they don't count their time b/c it was run on a freakishly fast track? Of course they do... Same thing here.
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Yeah, I'm serious.
It's like chasing a dyno number, that's my point.
I agree that there have to be "parameters" that need to be met, like the max 3% grade.
However, I, personally, do not chase that grade just to get a number quicker than the next guy.
In the real world, cars run what they run.
I can't see trying to find that grade just to pick up a tenth or two.
Again., when you meet up with another car for a highway roll, all that gradient data goes down the tubes.
I'd much rather know what my car runs on a fairly level surface, rather than try to fudge the numbers in my favor by finding the max downslope allowable.
But that's just me.
You can do it any way you'd like.
 
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Originally Posted by art4iza
Mr. Vrybad,
FYI: Scott had my time recorded as 7.3 on a 3.7% incline, 6.3 on a dead flat road, and 6.14 on 2.99 decline. Next time, I will make sure that you see a sub 5 on a flat road
It's all good.
I ran a 7.19 on a 3.5% incline, but so far, a best of 6.89 on a 1% incline.
I'm sure you can best your current record with a little bit of tweaking.
 
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I do see your point of view here but on the drag strip is where I hit the 6.3 from 60-130. Not to mention I even beat the new GTR skyline that was modified to 600awhp with a launch control they used. All the numbers I will give you which I have the back up from my files not to mention the videos. Where are you going with this? I just took out a proto 996tt K24/20G at 1.2bar. I have the video for the 650rwhp Viper as well or do you want the 700rwhp drag camaro with internals and meth where I was on stock internals with a passanger. Is that enough or should I go on? I don't want do disappoint here so just let go already.


Originally Posted by vrybad
Yeah, I'm serious.
It's like chasing a dyno number, that's my point.
I agree that there have to be "parameters" that need to be met, like the max 3% grade.
However, I, personally, do not chase that grade just to get a number quicker than the next guy.
In the real world, cars run what they run.
I can't see trying to find that grade just to pick up a tenth or two.
Again., when you meet up with another car for a highway roll, all that gradient data goes down the tubes.
I'd much rather know what my car runs on a fairly level surface, rather than try to fudge the numbers in my favor by finding the max downslope allowable.
But that's just me.
You can do it any way you'd like.
 
Old Apr 16, 2009 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by art4iza
I do see your point of view here but on the drag strip is where I hit the 6.3 from 60-130. Not to mention I even beat the new GTR skyline that was modified to 600awhp with a launch control they used. All the numbers I will give you which I have the back up from my files not to mention the videos. Where are you going with this? I just took out a proto 996tt K24/20G at 1.2bar. I have the video for the 650rwhp Viper as well or do you want the 700rwhp drag camaro with internals and meth where I was on stock internals with a passanger. Is that enough or should I go on? I don't want do disappoint here so just let go already.
Realistically, I don't know where you are going with this, so please, go on.
You are not disappointing me, that's for sure.
You said you see my point, so what is the question?
 
Old Apr 17, 2009 | 01:45 PM
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60-130 is a useful performance measurement, but trap speed at the strip means more to me in terms of power. There is no incline/decline to skew the numbers or inflate egos. lol
 
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