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Originally Posted by WOODTSTER
also Kevin:
did your driftbox have the same software bug the Todd (EVOMS), had?
Are you 100% confident that your #'s (60-130) are correct on your car?
I believe you are at a almost unbelievable 7.93 (I said almost!)
thanks again for the amazing effort you have put into and helping seek the
truth.
AX in hand and heading to warmer weather... Just to recreate, hang with my beautiful wife
and check out some super fast Porsches...
did your driftbox have the same software bug the Todd (EVOMS), had?
Are you 100% confident that your #'s (60-130) are correct on your car?
I believe you are at a almost unbelievable 7.93 (I said almost!)
thanks again for the amazing effort you have put into and helping seek the
truth.
AX in hand and heading to warmer weather... Just to recreate, hang with my beautiful wife
and check out some super fast Porsches...
Last edited by KPG; Dec 2, 2006 at 12:39 AM.
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Originally Posted by VRAlexander
I volunteer...Where can I borrow or buy a driftbox...I want to re-verify my 3.89 60-130mph full boost run...
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Originally Posted by RennTechV12
We'll have a driftbox and an AX22 at our Drag Day on Saturday, you can make runs with both.
....I just purchased one (with all the options) on-line thanks to Phoenix's help...Good Luch Saturday and have a safe day...hope the heavy winds calm down...I read the dust storm incident that caused some accidents today...I am also looking forward to watching some 9 second passes on Sunday...
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Originally Posted by KPG
SNIP.......OH , almost forgot the graphs. I think a real quick and easy solution to this matter is this: Some believe in GPS, some 1/4 mile dragslips... myself both. Run this car at the Dec 2nd drag date with the gPS onboard that Renntech has advertised and compare GPS data and timeslip data. Simple and effective. Kevin BTW....DMK's run was uphill!
Outstanding post. I appreciate all of the research you've done.
I still prefer an old-fashioned dragstrip, but I'm definitely going to purchase a Drift Box when I return to the US.
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I only asked for a graph and a couple of questions!
Thanks KPG. Both tools are extremely accurate BTW, but as you have experienced, they can be mishandled too and this is were due diligence comes handy.
Just before I say anything I want to be clear that none of my comments are directed at you AT ALL, I know you are only providing help and this is a very frustrating and time consuming exercice, BTDT, and I know how far you have gone in sorting out all the issues, thank you.
My questions are to the owner who I believe should have posted the data and explained about his car to clarify some of the quesitons.
As far as this particular car... Setting aside the mathematical calculations that show it wrong, here are my thoughts (and only my thoughts!) from a pure logical POV.
This run obviously shows no shifts. It either had a shift and it is not showing because the unit/software has had an issue during the run (I can post quite a few graphs with 3-4-5 seconds runs identical to this, showing no shifts) or...
- This car needs about 1300BHP to get those numbers if the run was made in 4th gear. Or 2400lbs or less with Porsche-like 750BHP.
- My understanding is that this is an EVOMS 750, so that is highly unlikely?
- If it is not, then it should not be called one?.
- If it was in third gear, it needs 8K RPMs or so, then again, it should not be called EVO750 , which has stock RPM limiter I believe as sold, do we agree?
VRALEX's car would have done this run in 4th gear only in about 8+ seconds. In third gear only in about 7-8seconds, just for comparison purposes.
If you look at the acceleration (G force) the peak is between 3-4K RPMS, that is K16 territory, a car with this HP (remember it would need about 1300HP) would have the peak acceleration (not torque) at about 5-6K RPMS.
The drag strip will be great. A car with a run like this, would be in the high 150 mph trap speed.
Maybe a fast car but no EVO 750 here.
Thanks KPG. Both tools are extremely accurate BTW, but as you have experienced, they can be mishandled too and this is were due diligence comes handy.
Just before I say anything I want to be clear that none of my comments are directed at you AT ALL, I know you are only providing help and this is a very frustrating and time consuming exercice, BTDT, and I know how far you have gone in sorting out all the issues, thank you.
My questions are to the owner who I believe should have posted the data and explained about his car to clarify some of the quesitons.
As far as this particular car... Setting aside the mathematical calculations that show it wrong, here are my thoughts (and only my thoughts!) from a pure logical POV.
This run obviously shows no shifts. It either had a shift and it is not showing because the unit/software has had an issue during the run (I can post quite a few graphs with 3-4-5 seconds runs identical to this, showing no shifts) or...
- This car needs about 1300BHP to get those numbers if the run was made in 4th gear. Or 2400lbs or less with Porsche-like 750BHP.
- My understanding is that this is an EVOMS 750, so that is highly unlikely?
- If it is not, then it should not be called one?.
- If it was in third gear, it needs 8K RPMs or so, then again, it should not be called EVO750 , which has stock RPM limiter I believe as sold, do we agree?
VRALEX's car would have done this run in 4th gear only in about 8+ seconds. In third gear only in about 7-8seconds, just for comparison purposes.
If you look at the acceleration (G force) the peak is between 3-4K RPMS, that is K16 territory, a car with this HP (remember it would need about 1300HP) would have the peak acceleration (not torque) at about 5-6K RPMS.
The drag strip will be great. A car with a run like this, would be in the high 150 mph trap speed.
Maybe a fast car but no EVO 750 here.
Last edited by Jean; Dec 2, 2006 at 05:39 AM.
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Originally Posted by VRAlexander
So Jean
...just wondering....If a 996 traps 156MPH in the Qmile...then a 3.89 60-130MPH in likely?
Thanks-
...just wondering....If a 996 traps 156MPH in the Qmile...then a 3.89 60-130MPH in likely?
Thanks-
lets see what happens at the strip. from my experience it will take alot to get into the 9s... good luck to all.
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Originally Posted by iLLM3
Wish i could have completed my testing and runs 
Originally Posted by KPG
Martin, it is never too late...Tom still has the Dbox, give him a call...we will have you on the board in no time...Kevin
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Originally Posted by iLLM3
Does he really>?!?! Ok i will give him a call
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He is upgrading turbos and is trying to get a few runs in before it is too late... given the weather lately , he may not make it. Kevin
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Originally Posted by iLLM3
Yea weather is horrible right now. But my car is back, didnt get it detailed today which is a good thing, all i need is clear weather and im good for a pull or 2. The guy im selling my car to wants me to take him for an all out ride
tom