What cars can beat a 996 Twin Turbo with Stage IV?
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Originally posted by allanlambo
Just remember a 1990 Diablo is still worth more than a new 996TT.
Just remember a 1990 Diablo is still worth more than a new 996TT.
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Allan i love this you are very aggressive for something which is quite trivial and known throughout, the Diablo is so so performance and handling wise. The Murc is light years ahead but as a performance tool it falls short of what some people incessantly spout about it. The Gallardo is a good proposition though, from what i have heard well balanced, well made and sounds good, yet still falls short of a tt.
On march 21st we will go back to the same airfield and i will line up against the diablo. Then we will go from a start and i think we will be by the end of the 2 miles a very very long way ahead.
Ill film and post these runs asap
all the best
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On march 21st we will go back to the same airfield and i will line up against the diablo. Then we will go from a start and i think we will be by the end of the 2 miles a very very long way ahead.
Ill film and post these runs asap
all the best
adam
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Originally posted by Rave TT
Doesn't mean it is a better car, people over pay for lots of things, that is what makes a Porsche owner so smart and great.
Doesn't mean it is a better car, people over pay for lots of things, that is what makes a Porsche owner so smart and great.
Btw, there isnt even a 1990 Diablo. 1991+
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Originally posted by AdamT
Allan i love this you are very aggressive for something which is quite trivial and known throughout, the Diablo is so so performance and handling wise. The Murc is light years ahead but as a performance tool it falls short of what some people incessantly spout about it. The Gallardo is a good proposition though, from what i have heard well balanced, well made and sounds good, yet still falls short of a tt.
On march 21st we will go back to the same airfield and i will line up against the diablo. Then we will go from a start and i think we will be by the end of the 2 miles a very very long way ahead.
Ill film and post these runs asap
all the best
adam
Allan i love this you are very aggressive for something which is quite trivial and known throughout, the Diablo is so so performance and handling wise. The Murc is light years ahead but as a performance tool it falls short of what some people incessantly spout about it. The Gallardo is a good proposition though, from what i have heard well balanced, well made and sounds good, yet still falls short of a tt.
On march 21st we will go back to the same airfield and i will line up against the diablo. Then we will go from a start and i think we will be by the end of the 2 miles a very very long way ahead.
Ill film and post these runs asap
all the best
adam
In reality, lets say you do race the Diablo, he babies it off the line, and you jump him off the line, you really think that in 2 miles he cant catch you in a stock X-50?
No matter what you post, if he loses, its driver error, your X-50 is not stock, or his car is running on 6 cylinders.
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Originally posted by allanlambo
Yes, i overexaggerated with the close comment, but the Murci is still a couple of mph faster through the 1/4 than the Gt2. And the Road and Track test of the Murci was on a slippery track. They noted it would have been faster.
Yes, i overexaggerated with the close comment, but the Murci is still a couple of mph faster through the 1/4 than the Gt2. And the Road and Track test of the Murci was on a slippery track. They noted it would have been faster.
MPH at the end of the 1/4 mile woudl most likely be faster on a wet track because he'd be spinning some
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Originally posted by AdamT
Allan i love this you are very aggressive for something which is quite trivial and known throughout, the Diablo is so so performance and handling wise. The Murc is light years ahead but as a performance tool it falls short of what some people incessantly spout about it. The Gallardo is a good proposition though, from what i have heard well balanced, well made and sounds good, yet still falls short of a tt.
On march 21st we will go back to the same airfield and i will line up against the diablo. Then we will go from a start and i think we will be by the end of the 2 miles a very very long way ahead.
Ill film and post these runs asap
all the best
adam
Allan i love this you are very aggressive for something which is quite trivial and known throughout, the Diablo is so so performance and handling wise. The Murc is light years ahead but as a performance tool it falls short of what some people incessantly spout about it. The Gallardo is a good proposition though, from what i have heard well balanced, well made and sounds good, yet still falls short of a tt.
On march 21st we will go back to the same airfield and i will line up against the diablo. Then we will go from a start and i think we will be by the end of the 2 miles a very very long way ahead.
Ill film and post these runs asap
all the best
adam
Id race you though...
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Originally posted by allanlambo
Well these tractor inspired sportscars are more highly desired than your race bred kraut wagon.
Oh and btw, if the Murci is such a pig, why does it post better Nurburgring and hockenheim times than your 996TT?
Well these tractor inspired sportscars are more highly desired than your race bred kraut wagon.
Oh and btw, if the Murci is such a pig, why does it post better Nurburgring and hockenheim times than your 996TT?
25,947 km 9,00 = 173 km/h 2003 Porsche 996 Turbo app 700 ps, fastest qualifying for the 2003 24H.
20,832 km 7,32,52= 166 km/h Gemballa GTR Biturbo 600 ps, Wolfgang Kaufmann 2001.
20,832 km 7,43,4 = 161 km/h TechArt 996 GT2 Porsche 620 ps, Horst von Saurma, Sport Auto 2001.
20,600 km 7,46 = 160 km/h 2001 Porsche 996 GT2, Horst von Saurma, Sport Auto 2001.
20,832 km 7,47 = 160 km/h 2001 Porsche 996 GT2, Walther Röhrl, 2000.
20,600 km 7,52 = 159 km/h 2002 Lamborghini Murcielago 570 ps, Horst von Saurma, Sport Auto 2002.
20,832 km 7,56 = 157 km/h Porsche 996 GT3 360 ps, Walther Röhrl 2000.
20,832 km 7,56 = 157 km/h Porsche 996 Turbo 420 ps 2000.
20,832 km 8,09 = 153 km/h Lamborghini Diablo SV 520 ps.
20,600 km 8,04 = 153 km/h Lamborghini Diablo GT, Sport Auto 2000.
Hmmmm... same driver, same track, same distance. 6 seconds faster in the GT2 than the Murci pig.
You see, I have a GT2. And that is worth more than all but the 6.0 Diablo.
Oh, I suppose you meant why is the Murci 4 seconds faster than the 996TT with 420hp? Maybe because it is down 150hp from the Murci? It is still much faster than the Diablo, however.
An X50 would be about the same lap time as a Murci with only 450hp.
If you want to talk resale value compare the percentage of depreciation between the 996 Turbo and the Diablo. The Turbo comes out way ahead.
Admit it, Lamborghini is about styling, not performance. If they were about the latter, they would be more involved with racing.
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Diablo chassis was designed in the late 1980's. I never said that a new Porsche isnt faster around a track than a Diablo. IT IS. The Diablo was never meant as a track star. In a straightline, the Diablo is still quicker than the Porsche, stock.
Im sorry, but Porsche resale values of late are abominable. Gt2's which were selling for 200,000 K 2 years ago, cant get 125,000. 996TT's are even worse.
Murcielago recently set a 7.43 on the Nurburgring with its new E-gear system.
Oh and btw, do you think that Walter or Horst have more seat time in Porsches or Lambos on track?
Im sorry, but Porsche resale values of late are abominable. Gt2's which were selling for 200,000 K 2 years ago, cant get 125,000. 996TT's are even worse.
Murcielago recently set a 7.43 on the Nurburgring with its new E-gear system.
Oh and btw, do you think that Walter or Horst have more seat time in Porsches or Lambos on track?
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Originally posted by allanlambo
Diablo chassis was designed in the late 1980's. I never said that a new Porsche isnt faster around a track than a Diablo. IT IS. The Diablo was never meant as a track star. In a straightline, the Diablo is still quicker than the Porsche, stock.
Im sorry, but Porsche resale values of late are abominable. Gt2's which were selling for 200,000 K 2 years ago, cant get 125,000. 996TT's are even worse.
Murcielago recently set a 7.43 on the Nurburgring with its new E-gear system.
Oh and btw, do you think that Walter or Horst have more seat time in Porsches or Lambos on track?
Diablo chassis was designed in the late 1980's. I never said that a new Porsche isnt faster around a track than a Diablo. IT IS. The Diablo was never meant as a track star. In a straightline, the Diablo is still quicker than the Porsche, stock.
Im sorry, but Porsche resale values of late are abominable. Gt2's which were selling for 200,000 K 2 years ago, cant get 125,000. 996TT's are even worse.
Murcielago recently set a 7.43 on the Nurburgring with its new E-gear system.
Oh and btw, do you think that Walter or Horst have more seat time in Porsches or Lambos on track?
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If you can find a US-spec GT2 for $125K let me know where I can find them so I can buy it.
And where is this 7:43 time? Why hasn't it been announced to the public, seeing as how it is a lower time than the Pagani Zonda?
You are obviously extremely biased towards Lamborghini and won't face the facts so it's pointless to continue this discussion.
If you think the Murcielago is a better handling car than the GT2, I want to have some of that crack you're smoking.
Did you ever ask yourself, well geez... how would a GT2 or Turbo with 570bhp do against the Lambo?
And where is this 7:43 time? Why hasn't it been announced to the public, seeing as how it is a lower time than the Pagani Zonda?
You are obviously extremely biased towards Lamborghini and won't face the facts so it's pointless to continue this discussion.
If you think the Murcielago is a better handling car than the GT2, I want to have some of that crack you're smoking.
Did you ever ask yourself, well geez... how would a GT2 or Turbo with 570bhp do against the Lambo?
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Originally posted by msindi
I had a **** poor launch (first time at the strip) and my clutch was slipping like crazy and I still managed a trap speed of 129 MPH on 93 octane using my IA 600 program....
I had a **** poor launch (first time at the strip) and my clutch was slipping like crazy and I still managed a trap speed of 129 MPH on 93 octane using my IA 600 program....
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Dont get me wrong...I was just therowing that as a reference pint as KPV dynoed his level 4 and Sean's RUF 550 and the graphs were pretty much pverlapping!! one had more peak HP the other more peak torque...
I have nothing against lambos and am curently in the market to roder a gallardo once the GPS and clear engine bonnet is available - oh, and I gotta sell my TT too since as much as I would love to have both cars I need to buy myself a home...
I have nothing against lambos and am curently in the market to roder a gallardo once the GPS and clear engine bonnet is available - oh, and I gotta sell my TT too since as much as I would love to have both cars I need to buy myself a home...