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Track report: Me in my GT-R versus me in my Turbo

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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 09:22 AM
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It sure it is nice to hear from someone actually using his cars, as opposed to modding and polishing. On the track with paper plates - way to go!

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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by eclou
Chris you need to align that TT to make it more trackable. The stock alignment is a joke
Yep. Subsequent to the above data, I had Sharky fit Damptronics and lower the car. I then took to Pacific Power for track alignment. I m now running Neg 2.1 camber in front and it makes a difference. Also, above data is with both cars on Potenzas. I now run Cups on the Turbo.

Of course, a GT-R can be tuned as well-- above is stock-for-stock (excect for Turbo power mods)
 
Old Sep 2, 2008 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by RioGrandeValley
At about 2:30 into this vid the GT3 driver is taking the curve way on the outside. Is this right? Seems like I'd want to be in the inside and not way out there. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Excellent driving skills Chris!
Excellent Review!

GT3 driver is really cool guy, but he was learning the track and got a bit nervous with Godzilla on his tail. A more relaxed GT3 driver on a familiar track would obviously pose a much bigger challenge. I have not heard anyone claim that GT-R is faster than GT3 stock-for-stock in hands of a pro. I am quite sure, however, that GT-R would be easier for a beginner to drive at 8/10th and still drive home in one piece.

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Old Sep 7, 2008 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by hesperus
Post of the week!

Just curious about a few things-- you generally seem to brake much harder and deeper with the GT-R; i'm assuming this reflects the different "audi line" approach you're taking with the car? basically slowing it down, getting it pointed in the right direction then rocketing out?

Also, what's going on at the very extreme left (start) of the graph, and the middle peak? you seem to carry a LOT more speed in the GT-R vs the Turbo? i'm not familiar with the track lay-out...

again, thanks for the great post!
I just picked those laps at random to show the acceleration on the straights-- they aren't my fastest laps overall in either car. I subsequently cropped the graph to remove some of the left, because (as you point out) it makes Turbo look slower than it was (maybe I had traffic in that part of the lap).

However, I also noticed that my entry speed to some corners was a lot slower in the GT-R. I was prob over-braking and then getting on throttle well before the apex. I could prob get through those turns faster overall by turning a bit earlier and trusting the car more, but it does push a bunch.

I'll take another look after my day at Thill to see what's going on.
 
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wow very formative post. thanks a lot
 
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