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Old 10-13-2008, 06:26 AM
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997 GT2 modified turbines for sale:

Guys, I decide to run without VTG's so I decide to sell my modified GT2 turbines.
Modification was made by KKK Borg Warner (development department) in Germany which I paid for 4760 Euro.
There is few things done on it, one of them is 2 mm bigger air wheel.
I run with this set 1,400 kilometers from Germany to Poland.
We measured 640 German PS on the maha dyno.
I paid for the turbines 8568 euro and 4760 for modifications which is together 13,328 euro.
I would like to have 8700euro for both.
 
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What would be the difference between the turbos in my EVOMS 700 TT car and those re-worked GT2 TT's ? Quicker spool ? More HP ?
 
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Off-topic and sorry to hijack, but goddamn is the car in your avatar sexy as hell.
Is that a GT3 RS with TT wing and custom color or the opposite variant?
 
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Off-topic and sorry to hijack, but goddamn is the car in your avatar sexy as hell.
Is that a GT3 RS with TT wing and custom color or the opposite variant?
He started a thread a little while ago with very impressive pics...
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...-pictures.html

It is a 997TT with a GT3 front end, bumper, and Techart wing. He uses a water cooled system so he doesn't need the side intakes.

Very impressive.
 
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Originally Posted by bbywu
He started a thread a little while ago with very impressive pics...
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...-pictures.html

It is a 997TT with a GT3 front end, bumper, and Techart wing. He uses a water cooled system so he doesn't need the side intakes.

Very impressive.
Thanks and I agree. I originally thought TT with GT3 bumper, but the center exit exhaust led me to believe RS with TT wing...either way, gorgeous.
 
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Old 10-14-2008, 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by LMBZ06
What would be the difference between the turbos in my EVOMS 700 TT car and those re-worked GT2 TT's ? Quicker spool ? More HP ?
you should ask evoms, I believe they know everything about vtg's.

As I said some time before there is no chance to reach more than 580-590 Ps with modified 997 tt turbines.
Some of tuners in europe offer 600 or 630 Ps but it's lie.

with turbines I offered you will have the highest possible vtg's power but later responce. The power is raising up to rev cut.

I believe Us tuners will call it 850HP kit with this turbines
9ff used this turbines in 670PS kit.
 
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Look at the trap speeds and you can see the power those cars making...trap speeds and 60-130 times prove everything...
 

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Originally Posted by GT RUS
Look at the trap speeds and you can see the power those cars making...60-130 times prove everything...not stupid dyno results..
don't know this us numbers.
BTW you are from Russia or Us, why you care about this tests?
I measured 0-200 in 10,2 second. 0-300 in 28,7second.
most of 0-100 was in 3,4s. I used racelogic.
 
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I am from Russia but tune my car in US...

I dont care about any results except mine...

Here info on my previous car with SPI 700/750 VTGr kit:

I was able to get 7.23 seconds on a 60-130mph run on a 2.7% decline. The car should run in the 6s when I run race gas.

I also did a 0-60 and 0-100mph run (same run) on a very flat road, and the results are as follows:


0-10 0.2
0-20 0.7
0-30 1.1
0-40 1.5
0-50 2.2
0-60 2.9
0-70 3.6
0-80 4.5
0-90 5.4
0-100 6.4

For that run I brake boosted up to about 2500 rpms and flew off the line. Sport mode on, PSM off. I let the the transmission shift completely on its own. 60ft was 1.7 seconds, 1/8 mile was 7.0 @ 105.3mph. Max long G during the run was 1.207 Gs @ 34 mph. Very impressive.
 
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GT RUS, how much your 0-200km/h time? It's 0-124mph...

The 0-200km/h measurement is something I would Like to get from US tuner Porsches!

That acceleration is usually tested in European articles (so the 0-200km/h time can be found for many EU tuned Porsches) but we usually don't have that kind of data from the States...That would reduce critisism...
 
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Originally Posted by Kaizu
GT RUS, how much your 0-200km/h time? It's 0-124mph...

The 0-200km/h measurement is something I would Like to get from US tuner Porsches!

That acceleration is usually tested in European articles (so the 0-200km/h time can be found for many EU tuned Porsches) but we usually don't have that kind of data from the States...That would reduce critisism...
I disagree. If you are looking for acceleration as a primary measure of power, I would think that 100-200 KPH is a better measure, as it eliminates any variability in launch technique, wheel spin, etc.

I believe eclou posted data on his AWE kit...100-200 KPH in 6 seconds...which I believe is on par with the RT12 650. Karol's car ran 6.8s if my calculation is correct.
 
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Originally Posted by bbywu
I disagree. If you are looking for acceleration as a primary measure of power, I would think that 100-200 KPH is a better measure, as it eliminates any variability in launch technique, wheel spin, etc.

I believe eclou posted data on his AWE kit...100-200 KPH in 6 seconds...which I believe is on par with the RT12 650. Karol's car ran 6.8s if my calculation is correct.
Someone has done especially the 100-200 run with the RT12? Has or not, I believe your claim, because I have seen those 700hp beasts being fast!! (I have a old 996TT with 530hp and additional downforce, PBOX shows 7 seconds..not fast but can keep up at the track )

Of course a better measurement is the 100-200 you talk about, BUT at least with all the data I have seen you should not compare a dedicated/optimal 100-200 run to a one that has been just calculated from the 0-200 run. I usually see 100-200 runs "calculated" from magazine tests and they do not tell the whole truth because on most cars the use of 2nd gear hurts the 100-200 time...

And one good point is that there is a lot of 0-200 data available...(Well actually this claim is a bit poor because most cars are simply too slow in 0-200 when compared to this forums cars so the data isn't useful! The magazine test cars are usually too slow for this audience )

Some examples though:

- One could compare a much modded car to this:
Manthey 996 GT2 685hp: 9.3 seconds (test by Autobild, street tires, additional downforce)

- One could compare a bit modded car to this:
Wendland 997 Turbo 530hp: 11.1 seconds (test by Sport Auto, MPSC, otherwise car very stock with steel brakes, manual etc.)

- This tested by the owner:
RS-Tuning 997 Turbo 544hp: 10.4 seconds

(if someone goes to measure the same acceleration, don't worry about the start, the Germans are not fast off the line either.. )
 

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In my opinion 0-200km/h acceleration test is the most important one. You can see all the data's like lag on first two gears etc....
Of course there is a lot of launch technique but at the end of the day who cares let's believe that people interested in this measurements know how to drive the car.
 
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one more thing you can watch 0-60km/h parametr so you know should you accelerate up to 200 or start again.
0-60km/h I have in 1,4s when is more you can try again.
 
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I have friend of mine who owns 997 GT2 might be interested in these VTG's. Does it require different ECU?
 

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