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Michael88 08-16-2011 09:33 AM

Possible to Delete Wing from 997 Turbo?
 
This may seem like a weird question, but here goes. Can I replace the deck lid with an aftermarket piece or perhaps a replacement from a C2/C4 and thereby delete the wing from my 997 Turbo? If so, would this seriously reduce stablility or anything? Would this affect driving on local streets and freeways (say under 100mph) or just at the track? I guess that's more like three questions. I searched the forums, but couldn't find any discussion of this idea.

Thanks,
Mike

ruf_turbo 08-16-2011 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by Michael88 (Post 3288688)
This may seem like a weird question, but here goes. Can I replace the deck lid with an aftermarket piece or perhaps a replacement from a C2/C4 and thereby delete the wing from my 997 Turbo? If so, would this seriously reduce stablility or anything? Would this affect driving on local streets and freeways (say under 100mph) or just at the track? I guess that's more like three questions. I searched the forums, but couldn't find any discussion of this idea.

Thanks,
Mike

Because the wing pops up at 75mph I suspect it would hurt aero and stability seriously. Even the C2/C4 wings pop up at speed.

The mechanics of the turbo wing and C2/C4 are different so it might not be easy to replace.

You could certainly add an after market wing as there are plenty around. It just depends on what you are really trying to accomplish.

Michael88 08-16-2011 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by ruf_turbo (Post 3288721)
You could certainly add an after market wing as there are plenty around. It just depends on what you are really trying to accomplish.

Thanks for the reply. I prefer the appearance of the Carrera--I'm not a fan of this big wing on the back of the Turbo. So my thought was, maybe I can swap out the wing and decklid for the more integrated system on the Carrera. :confused:

bbywu 08-16-2011 06:20 PM

The body shape of the turbo is a wind tunnel, track tested design that has been used over multiple generations.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2650/...3164764d_z.jpg

I'm not sure it is wise to alter the aerodynamic design of a vehicle simply because you don't like the looks.

johnww 08-16-2011 06:58 PM

[quote=ruf_turbo;3288721]Because the wing pops up at 75mph I suspect it would hurt aero and stability seriously. Even the C2/C4 wings pop up at speed.

I thought at first the wing only came up at ~75. I found the wing can be moved up at any speed by the dash switch. Having the spoiler up really adds a new-special look to the turbo. Comes down with ignition off, so my switch gets punched on startup joint with sport mode.

Michael88 08-16-2011 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by bbywu (Post 3288835)
I'm not sure it is wise to alter the aerodynamic design of a vehicle simply because you don't like the looks.

Makes sense. I need a CAD simulation or a wind tunnel for a day.

djben 08-16-2011 10:12 PM

I think the rear of the 911 looks odd without a wing and the stock turbo one is a bit too docile for my tastes. Misha wing comes in on Thursday :D

Under 100mph I don't see how you're going to notice much of a difference with street driving but I'm not sure if it would be worth permanently trying to run a wing-delete option.

bonehead 08-16-2011 10:19 PM

Done and done.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5134/...957b95a9_b.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5133/...6606864a_b.jpg

salerno713 08-16-2011 11:18 PM

I was thinking a spare wingless deck-lid. The police in my town think im automatically speeding with a big RS spoiler... would be nice to switch up sometimes.

speed21 08-17-2011 04:19 AM

I didn't see the wing as that much of an issue...infact to the contrary:confused:. Maybe sell the car and get a 4S?

Michael88 08-17-2011 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by bonehead (Post 3289109)
Done and done.

So it is possible. Very nice photos, thank you.

cannga 08-17-2011 12:13 PM

In a fastback design like the 911, the rear tail is important for stability at high speed. The form of the 911's fastback, with a slope of about 30 degree (as opposed to a more gradual slope), is particularly prone to high speed instability without the wing.

In addition, both front lift AND rear lift are reduced by that wing. This is a significant part of the car's design, and one not meant to be removed. People may have done it, and someone may not feel any difference, but it doesn't mean it's a good idea. My humble opinion: leave the wing alone.

Cpa4S 08-18-2011 07:06 PM

hey bonehead - great shots and i thought i would also like to do it but now i think the spoiler is part of the killer look of the turbo. things look so mean. i got the cab instead of the coupe.

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._7739609_n.jpg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._3588997_n.jpg

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._4546718_n.jpg

WFO_Racer 08-19-2011 01:43 AM

Always thought it was funny with these pop -up wings that go up at 75mph that any Leo sitting on the john reads the forum and next day begins to pull guys over merely because the wing is in the ticket me position. For that reason alone I would select a different type wing.

OneFasTT997 08-19-2011 04:52 AM


Originally Posted by WFO_Racer (Post 3291382)
Always thought it was funny with these pop -up wings that go up at 75mph that any Leo sitting on the john reads the forum and next day begins to pull guys over merely because the wing is in the ticket me position. For that reason alone I would select a different type wing.

Going to be interesting when you show him the wing can be deployed while stopped.


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