To all with Escort laser shifters (9500ci), keep in mind the laser shifter is turned off from the factory. You have to turn it on yourself. I found out the hard way and got nailed.

 

I had a couple of emails asking about our 9500ci mirror display promotion and just wanted to clarify to avoid confusion. The $99 mirror display is available only with the purchase of a 9500ci at msrp $1699 and the full system must be purchased directly from Radar-Mirror.com. If you already own the 9500ci or plan to purchase it somewhere else the standard $499 for the mirror conversion will apply.

 

That sucks

 

Oooh - good to know.
I wish there was a proper operational manual that came with the box!
I guess I should look online to see if I can find one.

 

Escort equiptment can't accommodate 3 shifters on the front. Laser interceptor and Blinder can. (laser interceptor is the better one)

 

Nope, it can. Run the rear wires to the front, and forgo the rear shifter. Then purchase a third front shifter and connect it to the rear wiring (now at front).

 

I am pretty sure you are wrong. It is not because of the heads, but the way they are controlled by the processor. The front heads are independently controlled from the rear head. That is why when you get a laser alert on the 9500ci, it will tell you if it is front or rear. You can't run two separately controlled jammers on one end of a vehicle.

Just to make sure, I emailed oe of my friends at Escort for the answer.

 

I have 3 front shifter heads on my car. It works. The rear head is replaced with a front head and run to the front.

When you get a rear shifter alert...well...clearly..you know it`s coming from the front and that the rear shifter has been hit and is shifting. The rear output just tells your display you are being hit from the rear. The ZR4 control unint has 3 connections for the 2 front and 1 rear. The rear unit does not control the other 2 front units.

As long as your are not running the rear shifter in the front, it is fine. Initially, when I put the rear head in the front along with the 2 front shifters, the jamming was worse than with just 2 front heads. The rear shifter runs a different shifting "program".

I have tested my car (997TT) with 2 heads vs 3 heads using several laser guns with law enforcement expertise. In other words, the guys operating the guns are professionals.

3 front heads consistently jam better than 2 front heads.

Placement on a 997TT. Front head below the passenger headlight. Front head near the front plate as high up as possible. Rear head (replaced with a front shifter) below the driver headlight. Normally, laser is shot in order of frequency, at the front plate, then the passenger headlight followed by the driver side headlight. With 3 heads, are able to address these 3 key areas hit the most often by laser.

You just have to be able to think outside the box my friend. Real world results. It works. I have not had a single ticket since running it this way.

 

Trust me, when it comes to this I have thought outside of the box. The way that you have your shifters set up is the best for 3 heads in the front of a car for a 9500CI. A problem can arise if the "front" shifters see the "rear" shifter or visa versa. If the LIDAR operator shoots the "front" shifters and the "rear" shifter sees not the LIDAR, but the "front" shifter, it will try to jam the front shifters, not the LIDAR gun. The converse can happen too. If the front and rear shifters also happen to be out of phase, by shooting one of the head lights first and then the other, you will probably experience a PT. By shooting your car in the order CM,PH,DH you are activating both sets of shifters at the same time. The ZR4s are the most sensitive laser receivers. If you shoot one of the headlights first without the other headlight sensing the LIDAR beam, then go for the other headlight, I expect you will get a PT.

The reason when you used the rear license plate shifter on the license plate on the front, the results were worse because when shooting the center of the car you could have possibly only activated the center shifter (without the headlight shifter firing), then when shooting the head lights then activated them causing two out of sync jamming algorithims to be sent back to the LIDAR gun. Another possibility is that the rear license plate shifter head may have more LEDs in it than the front shifters. Your results could be due to the competing jamming algorithms at the same intenisty vs. two competing jamming algorithms at different intensities.

 

I don't know why we are arguing about this, but finally:

If you read my post, it is VERY CLEAR, that we are putting 3 FRONT shifters on the front of a 997, not the REAR shifter. I bought an extra front shifter from Escort to do this.

My 3 front shifter set up is real world. Tried and tested vs 2 front heads by experienced operators of various laser guns. It works and jams better consistently than with only 2 front heads.

And as I have said before, when you put 2 front shifters and 1 rear shifter in the front of the vehicle, the jamming is worse than with just 2 front shifters (as designed by Escort).

However, with 3 front shifters, the results are better than 2 front shifters. Real world results. I have them this way, and have been extensively tested BY law enforcement.

Peace.

 

LOL - I was laughing too... how some don't read the post.
Yup 3 shifters, all three are the front-type shifters.
The rear shifter is not used
the rear wiring is used

 

Heard from my friend at Escort. The only difference between the front and rear ZR4 shifters is the size of the head. This was done to allow mounting to the rear license plate. The internals are the same.

The reason when you used the rear license plate shifter on the license plate on the front, the results were worse because when shooting the center of the car you could have possibly only activated the center shifter (without the headlight shifter firing), then when shooting the head lights then activated them causing two out of sync jamming algorithims to be sent back to the LIDAR gun.

NWturbo, how did you have law enforcement test you?

 

I notice I get a few false positives on the shifters on certain LED lights when the car comes up close at lights. Not when moving fast.

 

New pcar owner and 6speeder, I would have pm'd you both but I don't have enough post to use that function yet.

I am installing a 9500ci and just ordered the 3rd front unit, will forgo the rear, makes sense.

My question is, you mention using the rear shifter wiring, but the 3rd shifter comes wired, does it really matter which wire is used as long as it is plugged into the rear slot on the control unit?

Also, I am planning on hiding the display unit and relying on the LED, do your really need the display for anything other than setup and programming?

Appreciate the input!

 

I have one. How do I confirm its on?