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Old Nov 8, 2012 | 07:43 AM
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Just had the annual service done on my '07 997 TT with 20K miles. The service cost was right around $400 and included an oil change along with a battery of checks and scans.

I am at that stage of my life where for an added piece of mind and for the convenience of a loaner, I don't mind paying few xtra dollars

On a side note, I personally am not attracted towards the looks and the interior of a GTR regardless of how good it is
 
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Just had the annual service done on my '07 997 TT with 20K miles. The service cost was right around $400 and included an oil change along with a battery of checks and scans.

I am at that stage of my life where for an added piece of mind and for the convenience of a loaner, I don't mind paying few xtra dollars

On a side note, I personally am not attracted towards the looks and the interior of a GTR regardless of how good it is
GT-R owner's manual states you MUST have a loaner while having maintenance done - Maxima/equivalent/or better.

Whether or not that happens - is up to you, the consumer.

I get loaners for oil changes, if I wish. Not sure where you were going with the loaner piece...

And the annual POS (Performance Optimization Service) is complimentary on the GT-R for 1k, 12k or 1yr, 24k or 2yr, 36k or 3yr, and about $270/yr after that - engine balance, trans relearns, etc...
 
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I was refering to general dealership vs indy services/prices and not GTR/service, so your post is bit to me.

Also, I didn't mean to critisize the GTR either. For men, it's always about the physical attraction first, and that's what I was refering to

The sleeker look, the smoother curves, the flared fenders and OMG, those headlights (isn't it always about the headlights) is what gets my blood flowing

GTR is a great car but not for me.

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I was refering to general dealership vs indy services/prices and not GTR/service, so your post is bit to me.

Also, I didn't mean to critisize the GTR either. For men, it's always about the physical attraction first, and that's what I was refering to

The sleeker look, the smoother curves, the flared fenders and OMG, those headlights (isn't it always about the headlights) is what gets my blood flowing

GTR is a great car but not for me.

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Roger - for a sec, thought you were comparing Porsche service (and $) to GT-R service (and $). As opposed to dealer vs shop.

It definitely depends on the individual. I can't stand paying 2/3/4 or more times as much for (what could be) an inferior product (OEM rotors vs AP Racing rotors, that last longer, and half OEM rotor cost).
 
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Originally Posted by Zero911
I'm looking to spend around $100K +/- $10K. I can get a new 2013 991S build at $118K pretty well optioned. I'm also looking at new 2013 GTRs on the lot (Premium, not Black as I don't see the value) around $97K. And at 09 TTs with around 15K miles for 90Kish. Hard decision. Haven't made any progress in 3-4 weeks.
IMO I would take the GTR over the 991S all day, wouldn't even be a tough choice. I would pick up a clean Mezger Turbo now before they all have high miles since there out of production. GTR's will always be available. Every nissan dealer here in Vegas always has atleast one. Right now I think theres about 7-8 of them for sale new and used. Only one 997.1 turbo for sale in all of Vegas. You might be able to grab a left over 13 GTR for invoice. That would be an amazing buy as well.
 
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Originally Posted by jaspergtr
..The chassis was stiffened, and revamped, all over the car - hence the DBA-R35 (2012+), replacing the CBA-R35 (2009-2011). It is scheduled to be revamped again for 2015 (the third evolution of the car, plan was mentioned before 2008).
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Is the 2015 "revamp" mentioned here a total redesign of chassis? Or is this merely modification of pre-existing one?
In other words, is this a mid-life touch up, like 997.2, or is it a redesign, like 991?

I was talking about a total redesign of chassis and drive-train if weight is to be reduced further than what is done in the spec V GTR, which lost only 130# after the weight reduction effort.
 

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Old Nov 10, 2012 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by cannga
Is the 2015 "revamp" mentioned here a total redesign of chassis? Or is this merely modification of pre-existing one?
In other words, is this a mid-life touch up, like 997.2, or is it a redesign, like 991?

I was talking about a total redesign of chassis and drive-train if weight is to be reduced further than what is done in the spec V GTR, which lost only 130# after the weight reduction effort.
This is where speculation continues...

Originally, we thought the CBA-R35 would have 3 trim levels simultaneously (base, premium, SpecV)... As it turns out, there will be 3 different versions altogether, subsequently (CBA, DBA, and...).

The changes that the 2012 went through were so massively different to the chassis itself, it deserved its own chassis code (DBA-R35).

See, regarding the 997.1 vs 997.2, then we could relate R35.10 (2009), R35.11 (2010), R35.12 (2011). R35.20 (2012), R35.21 (2013), R35.22 (2014)..., this is where speculation comes in. We are not sure if a revamp of the DBA (2012+) will be done with more changes, or another complete chassis upgrade (to the EBA), or whether the new chassis will be added to the lineup as a NISMO version, RS, etc..., along with the upgraded DBA chassis.

The GT-R community is always turned upside down every time information about the new model year comes out. Surprises every year.

So, we are partially expecting an EBA or equivalent (even newer chassis upgrades), or the addition of some obscenely expensive variant. What some believe is that there is a near 600HP version coming (as a swan song of sorts), and others believe the next gen (R36) may be a hybrid. What we all know is the performance is getting better and better, and prices are reflecting this.
 

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After test driving a couple gtrs and 997.1 turbos my choice goes to the 997.1. GTR would be my choice only if performance numbers were the key buying factor
 
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After test driving a couple gtrs and 997.1 turbos my choice goes to the 997.1. GTR would be my choice only if performance numbers were the key buying factor
You still driving a modded up 335?
 
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Originally Posted by longboarder
You still driving a modded up 335?
Hey buddy oh yea, 335 (N54) is still our main project car. We have a really beautiful single turbo option coming out in the next 30 days hopefully...

check out www.protuningfreaks.com and www.facebook.com/protuningfreaks ... should have some updates soon
 
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997.1 if you want to drive it, GTR if you want to show it :-). I only say this because week after week at the track, I go out there with my 997.1tt and have a great time, and all the GTR guys have their cars parked with hoods open showing off to all the dudes. They're great cars also, I just don't know why the guys don't drive them around here.
 
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997.1 if you want to drive it, GTR if you want to show it :-). I only say this because week after week at the track, I go out there with my 997.1tt and have a great time, and all the GTR guys have their cars parked with hoods open showing off to all the dudes. They're great cars also, I just don't know why the guys don't drive them around here.
You're advice consists of what other people ask of GT-R owners?

Perhaps you'd suggest them be more rude and not reply when asked questions about the car? Not cool for car people.

Sure, owning a GT-R garners attention. I still get it, 5 years later. Just last week, filling up on gas, I was approached by 3 different families, all complimenting the car, during all week (with the people I was associating with on my trip), and just today, when I stopped to fill up again (driving a lot right now). Sometimes it's just a quick "like the car, man!", sometimes people want to talk for a while.

I don't think it is fair to base your car choice off of how other people react to it. Or maybe I missed the point of your post - was it that if you don't want to be noticed, get a 911?

Either way, I'd disagree.
 
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Originally Posted by jaspergtr
You're advice consists of what other people ask of GT-R owners?

Perhaps you'd suggest them be more rude and not reply when asked questions about the car? Not cool for car people.

Sure, owning a GT-R garners attention. I still get it, 5 years later. Just last week, filling up on gas, I was approached by 3 different families, all complimenting the car, during all week (with the people I was associating with on my trip), and just today, when I stopped to fill up again (driving a lot right now). Sometimes it's just a quick "like the car, man!", sometimes people want to talk for a while.

I don't think it is fair to base your car choice off of how other people react to it. Or maybe I missed the point of your post - was it that if you don't want to be noticed, get a 911?

Either way, I'd disagree.
Clearly you did miss the point of my post. My point was, every week at the track everybody is out having fun racing and the gtr's are always parked on the side talking to dudes. That's all, don't read into it. I was just wondering out-loud why that might be so?
 
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Haha this topic always comes back to the top of the boards. A Gtr would destroy a 997.1 around the track. Roll race is a different story as mods and driver skill always factor in. I still prefer the look of the 997 turbo over a Gtr though.
 


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