Need some advice, 997.1 Turbo or 2012 Nissan GTR
#32
05-10-2012, 11:06 AM
Ill be graduating soon and i plan to go out and get myself a 997. My friends suggested the GTR and i personally considered it but to me the porsche suits me better.
It all comes down to preference and what you feel more comfortable in. Go take a drive in both cars and see which you yearn for the most lol. Goodluck
It all comes down to preference and what you feel more comfortable in. Go take a drive in both cars and see which you yearn for the most lol. Goodluck
#34
05-10-2012, 11:43 AM
^ I could see that, if it was remotely related to the OP's question about daily driving...
(performance by professional drivers, staying in boost, launching, etc... - what kind of daily driving does he do?)
By the way, on the same article that the 997.2 TTS out-performed the GT-R (costs a little bit more than the OP's question of a 997.1, so outside those parameters as well), the reviewer stated something about driving confidence of the GT-R as opposed to the 'twitchy' TTS. Now I don't think he is going to drive that fast, ever, so it probably doesn't matter.
OP - like I said earlier, it is preference. The GT-R does make a little more noise than the tiptronic 997.1 (transmission clunking, turbo spooling, road noise from runflats, etc...).
I'm not sure if this was addressed (and would be a deal breaker for me) - are you looking at 6sp Turbo or tip? In my opinion, if you were looking for a manual clutch pedal, clearly your choice is made. If you were thinking about tiptronic, I'd favor the DCT in the GT-R any day (I'm not sure who'd prefer the tip or why).
(performance by professional drivers, staying in boost, launching, etc... - what kind of daily driving does he do?)
By the way, on the same article that the 997.2 TTS out-performed the GT-R (costs a little bit more than the OP's question of a 997.1, so outside those parameters as well), the reviewer stated something about driving confidence of the GT-R as opposed to the 'twitchy' TTS. Now I don't think he is going to drive that fast, ever, so it probably doesn't matter.
OP - like I said earlier, it is preference. The GT-R does make a little more noise than the tiptronic 997.1 (transmission clunking, turbo spooling, road noise from runflats, etc...).
I'm not sure if this was addressed (and would be a deal breaker for me) - are you looking at 6sp Turbo or tip? In my opinion, if you were looking for a manual clutch pedal, clearly your choice is made. If you were thinking about tiptronic, I'd favor the DCT in the GT-R any day (I'm not sure who'd prefer the tip or why).
Last edited by bbywu; 05-10-2012 at 11:48 AM.
#35
05-10-2012, 12:34 PM
Do you think the 2012/2013 GT-Rs are different than the initial factory setup? I know there are some conspiracies out there about the small incremental improvements over the last several years (i.e. the current setup is the car that should have been released), but subjective aesthetics aside, the current GT-R really shines, especially comparing to a car that is a generation behind.
Consider the 997.1 & 997.2 terms that we've applied to the outgoing 911:
2009 GT-R = R35.1.1 (CBA-R35)
2010 GT-R = R35.1.2
2011 GT-R = R35.1.3
2012 GT-R = R35.2.1 (DBA-R35) - completely new chassis code
2013 GT-R = R35.2.2
I can't wait to see the 2015 GT-R improvements... May have to update.
Last edited by jaspergtr; 05-10-2012 at 12:39 PM.
#36
05-10-2012, 01:46 PM
Answers my question perfectly.
Last edited by bbywu; 05-10-2012 at 02:18 PM.
#37
05-10-2012, 02:39 PM
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you cannot go wrong in either case. I must say that I am a porsche fanatic, and hopefully will be able to always afford one. I will add though, since I've seen some lightly modded GTR's in action I've had the urge to get one as well.
At the track they make a novice look like a pro, things I could not do in my turbo these newbies are getting out of their GTR's, it really is a great car. No question about it.
Its a tough choice, the only thing I know for sure is..............I would not sell my turbo to get a GTR. I hope that helps you.
At the track they make a novice look like a pro, things I could not do in my turbo these newbies are getting out of their GTR's, it really is a great car. No question about it.
Its a tough choice, the only thing I know for sure is..............I would not sell my turbo to get a GTR. I hope that helps you.
#38
05-10-2012, 03:41 PM
I'm actually in the market for a 997.1 Turbo myself right now and I'm finding something a little humorous. People love to talk about the Porsche pedigree, what a drivers car it is, how much more connected you are to the car etc etc...
Yet 99.9% of the cars for sale are Automatics.
I don't disagree with any of those statements, just find it ironic.
Yet 99.9% of the cars for sale are Automatics.
I don't disagree with any of those statements, just find it ironic.
#40
05-10-2012, 04:50 PM
Buy one now... And then save it for the rest of your life, so you can talk about the good ol' days, when people had this strange thing called a third pedal.
#42
05-10-2012, 06:27 PM
#43
05-10-2012, 07:10 PM
As for next generation GT-R, IMHO the primary, and only, and most important, goal is to reduce the weight and bulkiness of this car. It is 70 lbs from 3900 lbs. I "cry" because my Turbo goes past 3500; the GT-R adds another 300-400 lbs. 
Weight is the enemy of automotive sports and how Nissan got to this huge number is beyond me.
Handling and power are the GT-R's highlights. The bulky body, the nasty face, and the incredible near 3900 lbs weight are its downfalls. When Nissan has corrected those 3 issues, then rest of world, watch out. I don't see it happening though.
Weight is the enemy of automotive sports and how Nissan got to this huge number is beyond me.Handling and power are the GT-R's highlights. The bulky body, the nasty face, and the incredible near 3900 lbs weight are its downfalls. When Nissan has corrected those 3 issues, then rest of world, watch out. I don't see it happening though.
Last edited by cannga; 05-10-2012 at 07:24 PM.
#44
05-10-2012, 07:21 PM
As for next generation GT-R, IMHO the primary, and only, and most important, goal is to reduce the weight and bulkiness of this car. It is 70 lbs from 3900 lbs.
Handling and power are the GT-R's highlights; they are fantastic. The bulky body, the nasty face, and the incredible near 3900 lbs weight are its downfalls. When Nissan has corrected those 3 issues, then rest of world, watch out.
Handling and power are the GT-R's highlights; they are fantastic. The bulky body, the nasty face, and the incredible near 3900 lbs weight are its downfalls. When Nissan has corrected those 3 issues, then rest of world, watch out.
This, however, is slightly off-topic, because the OP asked about a 2012 GT-R, much less a 2013, 14, or R36.
#45
05-10-2012, 07:31 PM
I think Mizuno might disagree with you. He actually didn't say anything about reducing weight. He said he's furthering R&D with a racing program (researching wear, durability, etc...), and that the GT-R doesn't really have an 'end-point' goal in mind, but rather making it better, better, and better. He has no intention of ever calling it - done. If at some point, this means weight reduction, I'm sure he'll follow that. My concern is that if weight comes down, will the ride height be lower? .
The wear and tear on transmission, brake, engine, you name it, are directly proportional to the weight that the car has to stop and start. I think sooner or later, you will pay for the weight. Whether its reliablity, wear, fun factor, IMHO you are going to pay for it somewhere down the line. I would think this is the rule of automotive sports.
Mizuno may not bring up the weight reduction because he knows, and I suspect, that there is nothing he could do about it.
I don't understand about weight and ride height? Why would ride height be lower with reduced weight?
Last edited by cannga; 05-10-2012 at 07:41 PM.