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eurotom 07-10-2013 11:02 AM

Opticoat feedback
 
Swapped out my PCCB's recently with steels and track pads, the brake dust is overwhelming. In talking with my local detailer(Bob @ Auto Conierge) he recommended opticoating the wheels and calipers.

Has anyone done this? Feedback appreciated.

glassyp 07-10-2013 11:49 AM

I was talking to my detailer about the same thing, i too would be interested on the feedback.. Break dust is so annoying....

DNugget991GT3 07-10-2013 12:12 PM

i was on the phone with a detailer today. I asked about opti coat.
his response was "opticoat is garbage".
he suggseted something called liquid glass slealant or something like that.
he said one applied to the clearcoat (and wheels too), you can wash teh car up to 600 times before u see a single swirl mark.

glassyp 07-10-2013 12:15 PM

funny my detailer told me to look at the opticoat thanks for the input... also i am always a bit worried about applying a "sealant" to any part of the car...

DNugget991GT3 07-10-2013 12:59 PM

glassy
the detailer is from l.i. too lol

glassyp 07-10-2013 01:04 PM

Steve thats so funny he is on L.I. whats his name cause i might be in the market for a new Detailer...lol

function12 07-10-2013 01:10 PM

I have opticoat on my paint and I like it. I did not have them do the wheels. I will say bugs clean off better.

eurotom 07-10-2013 01:11 PM

Steve- interesting I have not heard any bad reviews on opticoat. I have viewed its performance in person. Ask your detailer to elaborate on "its garbage" comment.

DNugget991GT3 07-10-2013 02:26 PM

this is the stuff he wants to put on my car.
www.gtechniqna.com
$700 to detail the entire car. 11 hours curing time on the sealant.
an extra $200 for the wheels.
he said i will not have swirls for AT LEAST 2 years or 600 washes.

anyone heard of this before ?

this detailer is pretty well known, and comes highly recommended.

DNugget991GT3 07-10-2013 02:29 PM

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here are some pics he sent me.

imcarnuts 07-10-2013 03:23 PM

I have 22PLE Pro Signature Glass Coating on my cars. Available from Esoteric car Care - http://esotericdetail.com/22ple-glass-coating/

Just applied a few months ago so can't speak to durability but love it so far.

They also sell the gtechnigna products so would be a good source of information on the differences in the two products.

imcarnuts 07-10-2013 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by glassyp (Post 3891131)
Steve thats so funny he is on L.I. whats his name cause i might be in the market for a new Detailer...lol

I can personally recommend Detailing Dynamics on L.I.

bbywu 07-10-2013 05:19 PM

What is Opticoat's temperature rating?

handdoc 07-11-2013 03:39 AM

my wheels were opticoated, has helped a bit...rick nelson at unique car care rec it...he's the best there is

JSF721 07-11-2013 05:10 AM

I have had Opticoat on my sons Subaru paint and wheels a d my wife's MDX for the last year. This is a super durable coating that cleans up easily. Whoever said it is garbage is not in the industry. You may prefer something else but the Opticoat fits a need for a super durable , easy to clean coating. I clean the opticoated wheels with plain car wash soap. I have also used GTech EXO v1. The difference is EXO is slicker feeling and tighter beading but nowhere as near mar and scratch resistant. There is a v2 EXO that addresses some of this I am told but have never used myself.

Bob knows his stuff. One of the top guys in the detailing business. He did not lead you wrong.

FasPilot 07-11-2013 08:18 AM

Gtechniq C1 Crystal Lacquer sealant has been very good for me so far. It’s my detailer’s gold standard. Was previously discussed (with photos) here: https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ml#post3887170
The detailer applied sealant to my wheels, although I can’t say whether it was the same Gtechniq product used on the paint. I have PCCB so the wheels are never very dirty, but what dirt there is cleans up easily with diluted car shampoo. Hard to say how much of that is attributable to the wheel sealant. Although harsh wheel cleaner chemicals are not necessary, after reading other detailers’ opinions on another forum, I’m particularly staying away from using harsh chemicals around the ceramic rotors.

DNugget991GT3 07-11-2013 09:13 AM

Fas, are you getting any swirl marks ?
This detailer told me that with Gtechniq, i will be swirl free for up to 600 washes. how is car looking now ?

FasPilot 07-11-2013 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by Steve K ny (Post 3891681)
Fas, are you getting any swirl marks ?
This detailer told me that with Gtechniq, i will be swirl free for up to 600 washes. how is car looking now ?

No swirls, but to be fair it’s only been two months, the car has only had a full wash twice since, and I’m extremely careful with the paint when I wash it—two buckets, grit guards, a different wash pad used for the upper part of the vehicle from the dirtier lower part. But the beading and slickness of the surface remain pretty remarkable so far. What’s been your experience?

DNugget991GT3 07-11-2013 11:44 AM

i dont have it . a detailer is coming by on saturday to do the entire car.
im just going to get it polished and waxed and learn how to wash my car the right way.

handdoc 07-11-2013 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by Steve K ny (Post 3891804)
i dont have it . a detailer is coming by on saturday to do the entire car.
im just going to get it polished and waxed and learn how to wash my car the right way.

the most anal way is:
2 buckets, one fresh water and one w/ soap
clean fresh microfiber, no tag, preferable the kind w/o any sewn seams
start at top, do small sections, do wheels alone w/ separate cloth
after dunking into soap and washing, dunk and rinse into fresh water removing any crud, even using the hose if necessary
this will decrease any chances of swirls etc

FasPilot 07-11-2013 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by Steve K ny (Post 3891804)
i dont have it . a detailer is coming by on saturday to do the entire car.
im just going to get it polished and waxed and learn how to wash my car the right way.

Like you, I needed to learn the proper way to wash my vehicle. My office building has a lesser quality detailer based in our parking garage that has always taken care of my cars and it turns out I was clueless about proper technique. The high end detailer that applied the Gtechniq seal to my TTS sold me the necessary products and showed me how to wash it the right way. Essentially, it’s what handdoc outlines. What I’ve also learned since is if it’s garaged and out of the weather, you can keep it looking great with wipe downs with high quality detail spray when it has minimal dust, and waterless wash spray when it has more than minimal dust on it. A full wash is needed when it’s been driven in the rain or otherwise is too dirty for a wipe down. High quality microfiber towels are key. The TT is compact enough that it takes very little time to do a complete wipe down.

DNugget991GT3 07-11-2013 05:44 PM

unfortunately i dont have a garage. those are tough to find in brooklyn. i've got a driveway. the car is exposed to the elements 24/7. I hand wash it once a week and wax.
I've got 2 buckets, i've got a foam gun that attaches to the hose (works pretty well), I've got seperate washing mitts for the car, the wheels, and the rock panels. I'm hoping that by learning the right technique (the detailer is going to give me a lesson in washing and waxing), i can be as close to swirl free as possible. Handoc, how are you drying your car ? I use a dedicated shop vac to air dry it.

DNugget991GT3 07-11-2013 05:45 PM

Faspilot, is your tts still swirl free ? have you washed it yet ? do you plan on applying anything after each wash ?

handdoc 07-11-2013 06:08 PM

compressed air is the best way...no wash kits only the special microfiber as i discussed...i lived in nyc...cant you garage it near you?

DNugget991GT3 07-11-2013 06:27 PM

negative. its all private houses and the (few)garages are spoken for. (i have to rent a driveway) a couple of houses from mine.
the pizza bro. the pizza. thats why i put up with this.

handdoc 07-11-2013 06:39 PM

well, i guess i can understand...i would diligently work on garage space

FasPilot 07-11-2013 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by Steve K ny (Post 3892105)
Faspilot, is your tts still swirl free ? have you washed it yet ? do you plan on applying anything after each wash ?

I've washed it about four times, twice since the Gtechniq application. To dry, I blow excess water off, then dry with a good waffle weave microfiber using Ammo Hydrate while drying.

imcarnuts 07-12-2013 03:28 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Great for drying. I've been using for a few years.

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ine=1373664482

http://www.autogeek.net/mema.html

JSF721 07-12-2013 04:18 PM

I have this as well. I purchased my at detailers domain simply because in NY the shipping was much less.


Originally Posted by imcarnuts (Post 3892747)


Talisman013 07-13-2013 11:21 AM

Im surprised no one has suggested C.Quartz. Its a ceramic based protectant that lasts for 2 years. I had my 997 done a few weeks ago. Its amazing. My detailer used C.Quartz Finest, which is the professional formula. I think the consumer version is supposed to be almost as good and a lot cheaper. As with opticoat, surface preparation and product application is of paramount importance to the performance of the product.

http://www.youtube.com/user/D911AM

eurotom 07-15-2013 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by bbywu (Post 3891320)
What is Opticoat's temperature rating?

Had the same question, also had a conern regarding future adhesion of wheel counterbalancing weights.


Originally Posted by JSF721 (Post 3891578)
I have had Opticoat on my sons Subaru paint and wheels a d my wife's MDX for the last year. This is a super durable coating that cleans up easily. Whoever said it is garbage is not in the industry. You may prefer something else but the Opticoat fits a need for a super durable , easy to clean coating. I clean the opticoated wheels with plain car wash soap. I have also used GTech EXO v1. The difference is EXO is slicker feeling and tighter beading but nowhere as near mar and scratch resistant. There is a v2 EXO that addresses some of this I am told but have never used myself.

Bob knows his stuff. One of the top guys in the detailing business. He did not lead you wrong.

Agreed Bob is a paint genius, and a great guy as well.

drew935 10-17-2013 08:20 PM

Opti Coat will not affect the weights from sticking the wheel.

I've done a few sets of wheels:
http://autosalonworks.com

JSF721 03-27-2014 03:12 PM

I am a bit of a detailing geek and here is what I know. GTECH EXO is the most hydrophobic coating I have ever seen. The V1 has been on my Pcar for over a year. That car sees little mileage and looks great. My daily Driver has EXO v2 and has had 20K put on the clock. The coating has been on 9 months, this car sits outside 24x7 and looks great and beads great. I am in love with this stuff.


I opti-coated my wifes car and my sons. Opticoat is very durable, does not mar easily but also does not bead as well. If you are after protection it s clear winner.


Both coatings make washing very easy.


I want to try either GTECH C1 or Cquartz on a truck I keep for really bad weather. I will report back.


If you wash your own car EXO is awesome, if you have a black car or don't wash your own car, go Opticoat for longer lasting results IMHO.


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