Hey Everyone,

There is a used 997.1tt that has caught my eye. 61k miles, but seems to be in good condition. Some of the options include Adaptive Sport Seats, Sport shifter, and Sport chrono.

1) For those with Adaptive Sport Seats on the 997tt, are they comfortable for DD and for say a 200mile trip? Solely from pics they appear to be very well bolstered, perhaps too bolstered? Are the support adjacent to the thighs/hip area adjustable? I've sat in a few "sport seats" on say the G37 and they are too tight. Is that the case with Porsche's Adaptive Sport Seats?

2) Also, what is the significance of the Sport Shifter? Is this a factory installed option? If so, how much?

3) The Sport Chrono, does it add additional hp? Aside from keeping track of lap times, any other significance (this is particular 997.1tt is a manual)?

4) Just for kicks, my current DD is a sedan, and I have a Graco front forward booster seat. Can I use this car seat in a 997? Or is there a "Porsche booster seat?"

Thanks!

Hi Docboy

I just picked up a 997.1tt and this is from my research and owning it for a month.

1) the adaptive sport seats are extremely snug. I'm 5',7" and 140 lbs. but I'm a comfortable snug when I drove it from LA to Vegas and I never felt too tight.

2) the sport shifter is just a short throw shifter and is a very nice option to have.

3) the sportchrono I think is a must for the tt because it give it must better throttle response when activated.

4) I am using the britax frontier 90 in the backseat, it fits great and it easy to put in. I had a britax marathon, but it was a little too high. I had to take out the rear seat to make the car seat fit better into the rear.

The adaptives, or A.S.S. as commonly known are great. i'm not slight by any stretech - 5'10" 225 and i loved those seats. I did many long drives (much further than 200 miles) in that car and was probably the most comfortable as any car i've owned. probably the only car that after a real long drive didn't feel beat up. Truly a great road trip car. Would love to have those seats in my VW touareg! I had an '06 997 S before the turbo with the regular seats. I found that my shoulders fell outside of the seat and much preferred the Adaptives.

the short shifter is nice (i had it). whatever you have and get used to, will be fine. the sport chrono, if my memory is correct offered some additional torque for a short burst? it made the car feel quicker because of the increase in throttle sensitivity. not a huge thing in my mind but because so many of the TT's had it, a lot of people would only buy the .1 with it from a re-sale standpoint.

1) For those with Adaptive Sport Seats on the 997tt, are they comfortable for DD and for say a 200mile trip? Solely from pics they appear to be very well bolstered, perhaps too bolstered? Are the support adjacent to the thighs/hip area adjustable? I've sat in a few "sport seats" on say the G37 and they are too tight. Is that the case with Porsche's Adaptive Sport Seats?


gets a little tight in 4-5 hr drives IMO but that's with my suspension mods, stock car could be fine but my car was stock not very long. There is a wide variety of adjustment for them.

2) Also, what is the significance of the Sport Shifter? Is this a factory installed option? If so, how much?


Another must have but easy enough to install after the fact (if not OEM) if the perfect car shows up without it. I would hate longer shifts.

3) The Sport Chrono, does it add additional hp? Aside from keeping track of lap times, any other significance (this is particular 997.1tt is a manual)?


adds torque and changes the curve, among many other things, its a MUST HAVE

4) Just for kicks, my current DD is a sedan, and I have a Graco front forward booster seat. Can I use this car seat in a 997? Or is there a "Porsche booster seat?"


I have the Porsche specific seat for the front, fits like a glove. Rear I use recaro boosters that came with high backs. not much fits in the back, do your research on her for which ones.

Ill only comment on 2. The SAS are not needed, if the car has em fine, however they can get bothersome and are useless on the track.
If it has chrono great, if not you would be wise to add it on. At least the addon doesnt have the clock with its built in rattle.

I really like the adaptive sport seats. I bought my car in Colorado and drove it back to Calif in 1 day with no discomfort.

Sport chrono is a great option and I doubt many cars were sold without it.

Can't comment on the shifter or child seat. I don't find the standard shifter bad at all.

My 09 has adaptive sport seats, they are the best seats I've ever have in a string of many cars. If you spend some time online you'll find many positives and really no negatives on the seats. I'm not small either at 6'3" and 220 lbs and they fit me fine. IMHO the biggest negative on long road trips with the 997tt is road/tire noise.

Answers to some of your questions here, hope this helps and all IMHO of course:

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...7-1-turbo.html
EXTREMELY DESIREABLE OPTIONS:
PCCB, if you don't track (if you track, regular brake is safer): PCCB has same stopping distance as big red but significantly superior feel and "initial bite." People have likened the feel to being stopped by the hands of God :-). While PCCB is not for everyone, it is one of those things that IMHO you must try once in your life, and once you've tried it chances are you are not going to like the iron brake anymore. Also don't forget 35 lbs. reduction in unsprung weight and rotational mass, which also benefits steering, ride, and handling. The only time that I wouldn't recommend PCCB is if you track the car a lot AND don't have extra $$$ (complicated story, search forum; some people do use PCCB even on the track), otherwise for aggressive street use gen. II PCCB has proven to be around 100% reliable. BTW for all practical purposes the PCCB discs don't wear out, not until way past 100,000 per rumor anyway; you change the pads once every 35000 miles or so and that's it. Take this car quick before someone else on this forum does LOL.
*** - Adaptive Sport Seat: Far and away the best seat available. This hundred-thousand plus car it deserves this seat. Has deeper seat bolsters and deeper seat-back's bolsters to keep you in place when attacking those canyon curves. Very expensive to add later. I believe the only exception is if you are very large/heavy (no offense intended), in which case your torso may not fit comfortably because of the deep bolsters.
Sport Chrono (can be added but another costly pain). Another Sport Chrono Question - What else does SC do?
1. PSM (decreased with Sport Mode --- less intrusive)
2. PASM (increased with Sport Mode --- stiffer dampening)
3. PTM (the 4WD system becomes more rearward bias -- more power to rear)
4. TCU -- Tiptronic (more "sporty" shift pattern)
5. ECU (increased turbo boost)
6. ETC (more responsive electronic throttle control)
Manual transmission
Not a criticism of those who like automatic and meant only for people on the fence whether to get auto vs. manual. I have both types of transmissions (Porsche Turbo manual and BMW M3 PDK), love both and clearly the PDK is faster, but if forced to have one, I would still settle on the manual for the intangible "driver-engagement" aspect. As manual transmission is in danger of being eliminated completely from future 911's, IMHO it is even more imperative for the manual die-hard people (you know who you are) to hold on to your manual Turbo and to look for one in your purchase decision.

MODERATELY DESIREABLE:
Sport Steering Wheel (smaller diameter and thicker grip vs. multi function wheel). The Sport Steering Wheel has a round hub and the important thumb rests at 2 and 10 o'clock; this is the one you want. The Multi Function Wheel with a triangular hub and radio controls, etc., is not as desirable because it is slighter larger, with thinner grip (not good!), and most importantly does not have the thumb rests. Because it is so expensive to switch steering wheel, one could argue that this is a high level can't miss also.
Limited Slip Differential: so cheap as an option, so costly to add later. If owner ordered this option, he is a connoisseur and surely a member of some Porsche forum. :-)

COULD BE ADDED LATER:
Sport/Short Shifter (trust me you will love it): Perhaps not *that* critical because this could be added for only a few hundred bucks (750 included labor??). In addition, it is fun to try the standard long one, THEN switch to be amazed by how different, and better, the shorter one feels. This SSK option is firmer, less rubbery, more precise. Huge improvement for so little money.

Great responses so far, thanks!

The consensus so far is that the *** option seems to be positive.

So this specific 997.1tt is a 2007 MY, and it has 61k miles. Are any of you turned off by the higher miles? Or should I keep looking for one with lower miles?

I plan on keeping and driving the 997 until 200k miles

[QUOT6-15know is tooiocboy;4191582]Great responses so far, thanks!

The consensus so far is that the *** option seems to be positive.

So this specific 997.1tt is a 2007 MY, and it has 61k miles. Are any of you turned off by the higher miles? Or should I keep looking for one with lower miles?

I plan on keeping and driving the 997 until 200k miles [/QUOTE]

Imho 61k is too high. Low miles is the most important criteria in buying a used car to me. If possible pay more to get car with 30k or less. The lower the better!

At odds with your milage concern. While a low mileage car would be seemingly desirable, these cars are meant to be driven. I would be more apprehensive of a low milage garage queen versus a moderate higher milaged well maintained car.

Every Porsche mechanic I have spoken with(both dealer and indie) all say a low milage car would be more of a concern

My 997 TT has adaptive sport seats, and they are fantastic. I came from a 996 with the comfort seat option, and there's no comparison. I could easily see taking a long road trip in the 997 with these seats.

Agreed. As long as the car was well maintained. You should have many of the common repairs completed already. If you plan to daily drive this car then save the money and get the higher mileage car.

+1 on the sport adaptive seats, short shifter, pccbs and LSD. Great options if you can find them together.

For the car seat there is a porsche branded seat for the back. If your child is big enough there is a booster seat that works we'll. it's called bubble bum. It fits perfect. I use this all the time with my daughter. She loves going to school in the "turbo"

IMO this is one car you DONT want with too low miles unless you have a warranty. Its arguably better to get one with higher miles that's already had the shifter cables replaced and clutch slave replaced etc. as those will fail sooner or later.

I know three P mechanics, two dealer and one Indy. All three say they see more problems with garage queens because the oil and parts aren't cycling and staying lubed. Then the thin synthetic oil starts to leak out.