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Was in Houston all week, and now it's Texas Invitational... Might get a chance to finish it up Monday.
 
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We just did my injectors and it sucked. driver side removed air pump and inlet pipe. passenger side took off both milspec connectors unplugged everything off the head and swung the harness out of the way. i was so glad that the 1400cc injectors Undercover got me were direct drop it and we didnt have to mess with plug n play connectors or adapter/spacers....

here is a pic of oem injector and the 1400cc injector i got from Undercover.

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Those look nice, identical to the stock injector. What injectors are those? I haven't seen them for sale anywhere. I'm pretty sold on Injector Dynamics. The 1300s are made with e85 in mind and the flow matching on them is fantastic.

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OP: did you do anything in regards to the fuel pump as far as an upgrade?
 
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Those look nice, identical to the stock injector. What injectors are those? I haven't seen them for sale anywhere. I'm pretty sold on Injector Dynamics. The 1300s are made with e85 in mind and the flow matching on them is fantastic.

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My injectors are Bosch Motorsport 1400s

lots of marketing techniques flying around recently about the new stainless steel injectors. stainless injectors are not new at all.

little bit of background on that....

lots of guys have been using the big 2000cc injectors to run ethanol. those are umodified Bosch natural gas injectors not made to run fuel or ethanol, therefore they have problems with sticking and corrosion when they get older especially with ethanol use. I have personally not ran into that with the 2000s but thats the deal. fuel injectors actually made for fuel such as Bosch motorsports have stainless insides and are all "good" for ethanol. ID doesnt make those injectors, Bosch does. The ID1300s are not "made with E85 in mind", they are made with stainelss steel inernals for fuel which is presumed to have ethanol content just like all other injectors made for fuel. With that said ID1300s are a good choice !
 
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I'm not ultra familiar with the differences, but the IDs are supposed to be a newer design than the standard Bosch Motorsport injectors.
 
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OP: did you do anything in regards to the fuel pump as far as an upgrade?
Not yet. I am planning on putting a fuel pressure sensor on it so I can datalog and see what things look like.
 
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Welcome back to another installment of Worlds Longest Injector Install™. I was going to be back out of town on business this week on business but came down with a mild case of Ebola yesterday evening/this morning which kept me home. Kidding about the Ebola part, but wow I haven't felt worse in years.

At any rate, after the dust cleared tonight I managed to get 30 minutes to work on the car. Here's some interesting comparison photos that I took. I'm swapping back to the factory 380kpa fuel pressure regulator. I think ultimately I'll have better flow capacity at the lower base pressure vs the 5 bar which works the fuel pumps harder. With the ID1300 (rated at 43.5psi) these will flow ~1520cc (rated at 55.1psi by Injector Dynamics) so I should have plenty of headroom at my power level.



Trio of fuel injectors & 3.8 vs. 5.0 bar FPR




Injector Dynamics ID1300, Protomotive/Siemens Deka 840cc, and factory 997 Turbo injectors. I think they are ~630cc?




Factory 3.8 (380kpa) FPR vs. Protomotive 5 bar. I'm not sure if it's the Bosch Motorsport part of it's a modified part, haven't taken the label off to see what is printed underneath.
 
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few observations....

- thats def a crushed/modified 5bar not the Motorsport one

- part of the ID injector that goes into the intake manifold is much shorter than stock (from O-ring to spray tip), that will cause some fuel to come down and drip from the sides of the port.
 
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few observations....

- thats def a crushed/modified 5bar not the Motorsport one

- part of the ID injector that goes into the intake manifold is much shorter than stock (from O-ring to spray tip), that will cause some fuel to come down and drip from the sides of the port.
I'm not sure the spray tip is a bad thing. It looks like the stock injector tip protrudes quite a ways into the port - I've never seen that on my other cars but it looked like more of a flow restriction than anything else.
 
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I'm not sure the spray tip is a bad thing. It looks like the stock injector tip protrudes quite a ways into the port - I've never seen that on my other cars but it looked like more of a flow restriction than anything else.
it will spray into the sides of the manifold and drip down. ill try and find the manifold and take a picture of how the stock injectors sits in it vs the short ones...
 
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Originally Posted by rix View Post
Injector Dynamics ID1300, Protomotive/Siemens Deka 840cc, and factory 997 Turbo injectors. I think they are ~630cc?
Yes, they are 627 cc @3 bar.
 
 
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