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Old Sep 14, 2009 | 09:36 AM
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is this stage 4 advisable for the street or will it start to tear apart your car? I heard aftermarket stiffer dog bones (4 link) transfer more shock to your frame...
 
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definitely wont tear the car apart. it is all about spring rates as well. Our stage 4 package is designed to be tailored to different drivers and what they would like. We ran the stage 4 on our 987.1 cayman turbo for a good 20k miles and test drove people in the car and it was never a turn off.
 
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are the CO's enough for street and autoX?
 
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Originally Posted by nugent_crai
are the CO's enough for street and autoX?
You do not 'need' COs for neither street nor auto-x. Firm sport suspension is very essential for track, on auto-x stock suspension will be quite adequate.

On most recent event I had an honor to have as instructor our local club auto-x chair, so, now I have to revisit my priorities. As of results - instructor`s time on his custom race built 911 was 65 sec, his rival`s on gt rs3 did 66s. When instructor drove my car, pretty conservatively - he did 71sec. He liked my engine, as he told me and other folks - great car and he could do it 2-3 sec faster if he would push it. I hope he was serious.

So, my best time was 79 sec. Most of experienced folks did in area of 68-75, disregarding if it is an new `09 'S' car or 1998 C2. As a matter of fact most folks on older cars had much better time than owners of 997 cars.

Novices like me were all in 77-83sec, disregarding of car type they drove.

There is much more in driving than in any components one would put into car. I still do not regret any engine mods I did - car revs like crazy and pulls perfectly in higher revs - I liked it a lot - it goes on 2nd gear through entire course like a rocket.

As of suspension - I was told it will take me about 2-3 years to get into stage when it will become essential to replace stock into anything else. So I will postpone this upgrade, for a while.
 
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Originally Posted by utkinpol
You do not 'need' COs for neither street nor auto-x. Firm sport suspension is very essential for track, on auto-x stock suspension will be quite adequate.

On most recent event I had an honor to have as instructor our local club auto-x chair, so, now I have to revisit my priorities. As of results - instructor`s time on his custom race built 911 was 65 sec, his rival`s on gt rs3 did 66s. When instructor drove my car, pretty conservatively - he did 71sec. He liked my engine, as he told me and other folks - great car and he could do it 2-3 sec faster if he would push it. I hope he was serious.

So, my best time was 79 sec. Most of experienced folks did in area of 68-75, disregarding if it is an new `09 'S' car or 1998 C2. As a matter of fact most folks on older cars had much better time than owners of 997 cars.

Novices like me were all in 77-83sec, disregarding of car type they drove.

There is much more in driving than in any components one would put into car. I still do not regret any engine mods I did - car revs like crazy and pulls perfectly in higher revs - I liked it a lot - it goes on 2nd gear through entire course like a rocket.

As of suspension - I was told it will take me about 2-3 years to get into stage when it will become essential to replace stock into anything else. So I will postpone this upgrade, for a while.
you dont "NEED" anything for anything... but while im making myself better, I might as well make the car work as best as it can! I outperformed my tires last auto X and was only 3 sec behind the instructors... If I had hoosiers on my car, I would have been right up there with the instructors times. TOD was much better but it was in a little miata that was gutter specifically for autoX.
 
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