Weapon of choice to attack the Dragon?
#1
Weapon of choice to attack the Dragon?
(For folks that don't know The Dragon is 318 curves over just 11 miles. http://www.tailofthedragon.com/)
If you had both a 997 C2S and a 997 TT in the garage, which would you tackle the Dragon with and why?
If you had both a 997 C2S and a 997 TT in the garage, which would you tackle the Dragon with and why?
#2
Truth be told, it doesn't matter which car you take to the dragon, because excessive speed is neither an option nor a consideration. You'll be lucky to reach 50mph, and certainly won't exceed a total average over 30mph, unless you're in a police car.
In a totally objective policing no object perspective, the 997 tt will have the advantage primarily because of its all wheel drive and superior corner entry speeds. I've driven the dragon ins a c2, and it is much more than 318 curves. It's also 900+ feet of elevation change, over 10000 degrees of total camber change, and full of decreasing radius turns.
In a totally objective policing no object perspective, the 997 tt will have the advantage primarily because of its all wheel drive and superior corner entry speeds. I've driven the dragon ins a c2, and it is much more than 318 curves. It's also 900+ feet of elevation change, over 10000 degrees of total camber change, and full of decreasing radius turns.
#3
Agreed. I'm posing the question as I'm still debating between the two for my next purchase. You mention entry speeds but what about exit speeds? I'm thinking the C2S is going to be more nimble and easier to keep in the power band vs. the turbo (lag).
#4
(For folks that don't know The Dragon is 318 curves over just 11 miles. http://www.tailofthedragon.com/)
If you had both a 997 C2S and a 997 TT in the garage, which would you tackle the Dragon with and why?
If you had both a 997 C2S and a 997 TT in the garage, which would you tackle the Dragon with and why?
So, take either one. Slow down just a little bit and don't go to jail or hurt someone else. You'll have just as much fun.
When you need to decide which car to take, go to Road Atlanta (or a track of your choice) and get after it. It's much better that way and the clock won't lie. Most everything your buddies have told you about what they have done on the Dragon is bull$hit anyway. That's the same everywhere. Best,
#5
Truth be told, it doesn't matter which car you take to the dragon, because excessive speed is neither an option nor a consideration. You'll be lucky to reach 50mph, and certainly won't exceed a total average over 30mph, unless you're in a police car.
In a totally objective policing no object perspective, the 997 tt will have the advantage primarily because of its all wheel drive and superior corner entry speeds. I've driven the dragon ins a c2, and it is much more than 318 curves. It's also 900+ feet of elevation change, over 10000 degrees of total camber change, and full of decreasing radius turns.
In a totally objective policing no object perspective, the 997 tt will have the advantage primarily because of its all wheel drive and superior corner entry speeds. I've driven the dragon ins a c2, and it is much more than 318 curves. It's also 900+ feet of elevation change, over 10000 degrees of total camber change, and full of decreasing radius turns.
I've been going up that way for many years. Tennesse's finest put a major damper on the 'fun' aspect a couple years ago, back when the squids on bikes killed three of their own there in one riding season (when I go there I normally ride my Triumph Tiger).
There are many roads in the area that are as much fun, if not more fun, than the Dragon, but much less traveled. Over the past couple years when I go to the mountains I normally steer clear of the madness on 129.
Still, if you haven't been through it, it's worth the trip.
Last edited by NC 997; 10-04-2011 at 07:09 PM.
#6
Hope you get the car of your dreams!
#7
I'm not sure the c2s is more nimble. The lower ride height and superior suspension bits give the tt a pretty significant handling advantage. The road that goes from US129 to and then the along the cherohala skyway are some of the most fun high speed technical roads I've ever driven. You can stay very busy at a sustained 70mph. That trip makes for a very tired driver when you get to Knoxville or Chattanooga.
Last edited by voltairesb; 10-04-2011 at 08:52 PM.
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#9
For the Dragon, give me a mid engined Porsche anyday ! I owned a Boxster S before my current 997 C4S and in many ways prefer the Boxster's maneuverability, lightness, and handling abilities. The C4S feels lumbersome and heavy on tight twisty two lane roads, many of which we have here in Oregon......
#10
I'd go for the TT. The roads might be wet/foggy given the elevation and road length. There are cops and only small areas for decent acceleration.
I took my highly modified 350z there a few years ago and spent the weekend, what a fantastic time.
Made several runs, at the end of one run my car was handling like crap.
Pulled over, all my lug nuts were super loose. The curves are wicked, good luck.
I took my highly modified 350z there a few years ago and spent the weekend, what a fantastic time.
Made several runs, at the end of one run my car was handling like crap.
Pulled over, all my lug nuts were super loose. The curves are wicked, good luck.
#11
I agree 100% on this. I went from a Cayman S to a 997.2 C4S. While I overall enjoy the C4S much more, the Cayman was like driving a 300hp go-kart. Amazing handling on those mid-engine Porsches.
#12
The TT has a lower ride and a superior suspension than the C2S? Not if both are stock.
#15
I would take the C2S because of the controlled power through the NA engine. Turbos can get loose if you aren't careful (As evidenced by the two off-track experiences by the guy in front of me two weeks ago - he was done after number two).
Twisty turns aren't for a turbo unless it has been seriously modified IMO.
Twisty turns aren't for a turbo unless it has been seriously modified IMO.