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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 02:28 PM
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A crook is cruising the forum.

Well guys, it looks like there is a crook cruising the forums.
A gentleman contacted me about my 997S.
He made all these elaborate plans to buy the car. He had me convinced he was legitimate until he was supposed to pick up the car this weekend. He was supposed to get it Saturday, then because of the weather, he would get it today.
He sent me another e-mail today telling me he didnt want to get the car again because of the weather.
Now the good part, he wants to send me a check to pay for shipping the car to him and oh by the way, the check will be for more than the shipping and just send him back the difference. I sent him back an e-mail telling him to kiss off. I sent him another e-mail to let him know I would be warning everyone, now I see his e-mail is no longer valid.
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 02:31 PM
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Wow!
Tell him you'd be happy to take a check in advance for the car, wait for it to clear, and then drive it to him!
 
Old Feb 13, 2006 | 02:33 PM
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good catch.
 
Old Feb 13, 2006 | 03:17 PM
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Brian,

Just curious is your 997S a tip?
 
Old Feb 13, 2006 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian E
Well guys, it looks like there is a crook cruising the forums.
A gentleman contacted me about my 997S.
He made all these elaborate plans to buy the car. He had me convinced he was legitimate until he was supposed to pick up the car this weekend. He was supposed to get it Saturday, then because of the weather, he would get it today.
He sent me another e-mail today telling me he didnt want to get the car again because of the weather.
Now the good part, he wants to send me a check to pay for shipping the car to him and oh by the way, the check will be for more than the shipping and just send him back the difference. I sent him back an e-mail telling him to kiss off. I sent him another e-mail to let him know I would be warning everyone, now I see his e-mail is no longer valid.
Sellers BEWARE!
Cashiers Checks are made for this. In addition, you should always require proof of insurance when you sell a car and, by contract, require the buyer to place the car under their own insurance within 2 days or so, or they will indemnity you as the insured (just in case there is an issue over ownership and when the title transfers).
 

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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 04:53 PM
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He told me to pick it up for him. Don't worry about the weather. I'll be there soon.
 
Old Feb 13, 2006 | 05:12 PM
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He told me to pick it up for him. Don't worry about the weather. I'll be there soon.
Judge, you made me laugh on a very crappy day.
 
Old Feb 13, 2006 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by gdctus997
Cashiers Checks are made for this. In addition, you should always require proof of insurance when you sell a car and, by contract, require the buyer to place the car under their own insurance within 2 days or so, or they will indemnity you as the insured (just in case there is an issue over ownership and when the title transfers).
Actually you can stop payment on a cashiers check but not on a "Certified Bank Check". Cashiers check guarantees the named that no one else can cash it but the remitter can say he lost it, a Certified Bank check the payee is not controlling the check anymore as the funds are certified by the banking institution.


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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 06:00 PM
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Judge, you made me laugh on a very crappy day.
Sorry Brian, but it is 80 and beautiful today...the fires are over and I skipped working due to GREAT weather.
 
Old Feb 13, 2006 | 11:16 PM
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Unfortunately, a cashier's check and Certified bank check can be forged. If it looks remotely shaddy, I would wait until these checks clear too.
 
Old Feb 14, 2006 | 11:30 AM
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Counterfeit cashier check alerts from the FDIC:

http://www.fdic.gov/news/news/Specia...006/index.html
 
Old Feb 14, 2006 | 05:00 PM
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Unfortunately, a cashier's check and Certified bank check can be forged. If it looks remotely shaddy, I would wait until these checks clear too.
Well that is a def, but always call the bank to check and see if they even issued it, a wire transfer is always best IMHO !
 
Old Feb 15, 2006 | 09:55 AM
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I've bought or sold four or five cars using the net. Maybe Brian E did this already, but a good tool is (although not foolproof) to insist on a PHONE conversation with the other individual after maximum 2 or 3 emails have been exchanged.

I weeded out two or three scam artists this way who, up until I wanted to talk by phone, used email alone claiming they wanted to buy, asking for my address, ready to move forward, etc. (maybe computer IP addresses can't be detected by law enforcement anymore?).

Again, no guarantee--as disposable/stolen SIM cards can negate the ability to trace a caller too, but a lot of con artists out there prefer greater anonymity of a computer. Brian E did you try an ad on Rennlist, I sold a 997S after about 2 weeks that way.
 
Old Feb 15, 2006 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by C4Cortez
(maybe computer IP addresses can't be detected by law enforcement anymore?)..
It's almost pointless. Most ISP's use DHCP to assign IP addresses, which draws randomly from a pool of available IP's and is set to renew every so often. Default renewal time is 8 days. And you can force a refresh anyways.
 
Old Feb 16, 2006 | 09:31 AM
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Also, to add on to BBGT2's comment, do not confuse a certified bank check with a certified check! A certified check is simply a personal check that has been stamped by the institution.

I had a purchase last week that went south, the seller handled it propperly, but had he not I confirmed with my bank that I could stop payment on the cashiers check.

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