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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 11:17 AM
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I don't know why I didn't throw this in here before, but I raced an '06 Z06. We went from 30 to about 130. Would have done more if the conditions allowed. He and I launched beside each other. He pulled a half a car immediately. He shifted, I caught him. We danced back and forth through the shifts like this with him having a slight advantage... being that I never got out front. He did and then I would reel him in. In the end, at 130, he had a definitive half car on me and I think it would have grown. Keep in mind that, to my knowledge, I have everything done you can do right now, other than cats. I even have ram air from my Cargraphic kit.

Also, I have a buddy with an M5 (V10). I'm faster. Period.
Also, I have a buddy with an orange '05 Murcielago. He's faster. Period.
From a seat of the pants feel, I would bet a Benjamin that I'd take a STOCK 996TT. No experience with a 997TT, but I wouldn't lay my money on the table for that one. I'd lay it out AGAINST my car though.

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Old Jan 7, 2007 | 12:11 PM
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blakt out what mods do you have on your car and do you know the RWHP/tq figures? That sounds like an awsome run with the 06 Z06.
 
Old Jan 7, 2007 | 01:47 PM
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It was a good run. The wild part was that I could see him pulling on me at the lower revs and I'd almost catch him in the high ones.

I have the 997S, so it's a 3.8.
EVO Motorsports Supercharger, upgraded diverter valve (this system, of course, covers a lot: injectors, cpu tuning, intake, all that jazz)
Fabspeed Headers
Fabspeed Exhaust
Porsche Short Throw Shifter (woo hoo!)
Cargraphic body kit
Avus 20" 3 piece wheels. Slowin' me down for sure.

I don't know of anything else to do. If someone knows of something, tell me now, please.

I don't know the rear wheel power and torque figures. I dynoed it before the mods and it got 308.2hp. Didn't get a tq figure. I have been back, but the place was too booked up to run me. Everyone talks about the 500hp (crank) being low though and I believe it.
 
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Setup right and you will also walk the 99TT.
 
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Are you meaning the 997TT? I don't know about 'walking', but I'd run one thinking I'd likely lose.
 
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Are you meaning the 997TT? I don't know about 'walking', but I'd run one thinking I'd likely lose.
Yeah, a 997TT. Keyboard problems, I guess. Properly setup, a blown 997S should have no problem beating a TT from a stop up to a spead of approximately 140 mph. Don't now about the standard setup from EVO, as they tend to be conservative as they target the average Porsche consumer and not those willing to push the envelope.

FYI: I know of a blown 3.4 liter that beats the 997TT to 60, loses ground between 60 and 90, then pulls away to 150. Fun stuff.


996TT's are quite easy all the way up a few stages.
 

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As mentioned, go out and run them, no need for bench racing Im sure the 997S is a quick car, but so is every other car you mentioned, some even MORE SO!
 
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not true, have you ever seen Adam from Germany and his RUF 550 turbo pull the modified CL65 on the airstrip? Look it up on google video!
a RUF 550 is equal or more to a GT700 in acceleration...

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Originally Posted by blakt out
I don't know why I didn't throw this in here before, but I raced an '06 Z06. We went from 30 to about 130. Would have done more if the conditions allowed. He and I launched beside each other. He pulled a half a car immediately. He shifted, I caught him. We danced back and forth through the shifts like this with him having a slight advantage... being that I never got out front. He did and then I would reel him in. In the end, at 130, he had a definitive half car on me and I think it would have grown. Keep in mind that, to my knowledge, I have everything done you can do right now, other than cats. I even have ram air from my Cargraphic kit.

Also, I have a buddy with an M5 (V10). I'm faster. Period.
Also, I have a buddy with an orange '05 Murcielago. He's faster. Period.
From a seat of the pants feel, I would bet a Benjamin that I'd take a STOCK 996TT. No experience with a 997TT, but I wouldn't lay my money on the table for that one. I'd lay it out AGAINST my car though.

Does this help?
does not help at all since the Z06 as fast as the Murci... and Z06 is alittle faster than the 997TT... we need videos to confirm this...

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a RUF 550 is equal or more to a GT700 in acceleration...

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you said it not me. BUT, we sha'll see about that
 
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does not help at all since the Z06 as fast as the Murci... and Z06 is alittle faster than the 997TT... we need videos to confirm this...

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What's funny though is in the new Japan test of cars, the 997TT was pulling away from the Z06 even in the upper mph range where the Z06 should started catching up! So many variables, tough to tell, too many different factors, tests and opinions!
 
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What's funny though is in the new Japan test of cars, the 997TT was pulling away from the Z06 even in the upper mph range where the Z06 should started catching up! So many variables, tough to tell, too many different factors, tests and opinions!
you are right... in the best motoring videos the TT is faster than the Z06... but like i said from the begining all of the results are from a roll not launching... the TT had definite advantage due to 4WD... but in other videos the 997TT is slower than the Z06...

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you are right... in the best motoring videos the TT is faster than the Z06... but like i said from the begining all of the results are from a roll not launching... the TT had definite advantage due to 4WD... but in other videos the 997TT is slower than the Z06...

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You do know also that the 997TT is over a second faster to what is it, 180mph i believe? Meanwhile the Z06 s faster before then in the major tests, just putting it out there!
 
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JohnnyD, very good point!!!!!!
 
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Interesting.

I assume a 997tt is faster than my car, so I'm not arguing that point. But, if the 997tt makes 480 at the crank stock, and 440 at the wheels stock, that would mean it is losing, what, 8% to a 4-wheel-drive drivetrain? Seems unlikely. So is it really making roughly 530+ horsepower stock? Something doesn't add up.

But again, every dyno is different, and bench racing is boring. Who really cares? They're all great cars.
 


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