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Old 02-16-2016, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by cret
Agree but don't forget to tag on another 5-6k for the clutch and flywheel.
This is a good point to consider. We will likely be offering beneficial pricing on the clutch kit if purchased with a turbo kit, to help offset the cost.

However, it won't be necessary to install it immediately, we don't believe. Undoubtedly it will be a good upgrade. But hypothetically if you had lots of wear left on your stock clutch I would say continue to use it and get all the life you can out of it. Who knows, you might get 10K miles.

One of the benefits of the orientation of the turbo kit manifolds will be that it is no longer necessary to remove the LHS exhaust manifold to change the clutch. You will have to remove the downpipe on that side, but the only additional process to do that will be to undo a single Vband clamp.

So that will save at least 2 or 3 hours on a clutch install
 
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Supercharger or Turbo?

There were 6MT's with earlier V12V's. Was the same clutch used for that as the V8V? If so it should hold.
 
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Originally Posted by deckman
There were 6MT's with earlier V12V's. Was the same clutch used for that as the V8V? If so it should hold.
No, it's a different clutch unit. Our V8 Clutch Kit is the same V12 Clutch Pack you're referring to, but with a special flywheel and spacer to mount to the V8.

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...-flywheel.html
 
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Supercharger or Turbo?

Is it a lighter weight flywheel? Any chatter?
 
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Originally Posted by deckman
Is it a lighter weight flywheel? Any chatter?
Flywheel is a little lighter, yes. No chatter reported - remember this is the same clutch as the V12V, DBS, DB9, V12VS so it's pretty chatter free.
 
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Originally Posted by Stuart@VelocityAP
Headers, Turbos, Downpipes, Wastegates, BOV, Filters, plumbing and Intercooler plus a couple of brackets and bits and pieces to move a line or two. Decat pipes. Option to add Sport cats.

Our Target price is $12,000. May creep up to $12,500 or $13,000 depending on a couple of variables. But I think we're around 90% certainty, have done all the big numbers.

Install is probably 16-18 hours. So I think sub $15,000 installed is a fair expectation. A $40K low miles 2007 Coupe + $15K 600HP Turbo package is a pretty appealing car versus what else $55K would buy you!
How is stock fueling on these? Would the stock fuel pump and injectors be sufficient? And assuming it would be a low boost target (~8psi) on the stock internals?
 
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Originally Posted by randyb
Two easy ways to reduce heat, first not very effective stopped or going slow, would be ducting to the hot spots. The other is fans aimed across the turbos towards vents or any opening.
Or... meth or FMIC?? (Is there room?)
 
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Very interesting, I'm very likely to order a set. Do you have a partner shop in California?

Originally Posted by Stuart@VelocityAP
I would say we are 4-6 weeks from completing installation on this car. We will be logging IRO 2,000 miles of road testing before sign-off and release.

Once we go into production it's going to take some time to produce kits - at the price point we are aiming for it isn't economical or profitable to make the headers, downpipes etc. 1 or 2 at a time so we have to run off 10-15 at least, which takes some time also.

So realistically, I'd say we are 6 weeks to install completion, 4 weeks to sign-off and another 6 weeks until we'd be ready to ship. So we are probably 4 months away, realistically from delivering orders.
 
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Supercharger or Turbo?

There have been so
Many threads like this. I will believe it when I see it.
 
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Originally Posted by Sirdaft1
How is stock fueling on these? Would the stock fuel pump and injectors be sufficient? And assuming it would be a low boost target (~8psi) on the stock internals?
For this HP level the stock fuel system is sufficient - that is to say, it will handle the additional flow without running right on the limit of capacity. There's still some ceiling left.

We're working with 7psi of boost. Primary concern is not the headline HP number so much as torque. A 4.3L makes peak torque of 302ft/lbs at 5500RPM. This setup should make 302 ft/lbs at 2000-2500, and well over 400 from low 3000's onwards. So in other words, V12 Vantage torque levels.

For 99% of the driving we do that's going to be a more significant number than the HP, although we should be getting on for 600, or thereabouts.
 
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Originally Posted by Sirdaft1
Or... meth or FMIC?? (Is there room?)
There are a couple of significant ways to remove heat from the engine bay, but in addition the entire exhaust side and turbine housing will be supplied ceramic coated as standard.
 
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Originally Posted by StronkMan
Very interesting, I'm very likely to order a set. Do you have a partner shop in California?
Yes, we actually have several. Send me an email - Stuart@VelocityAP.com and we can discuss further. I think we are aiming to start taking orders in the next 4-6 weeks.
 
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Originally Posted by deckman
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Many threads like this. I will believe it when I see it.
Believe it

Admittedly it has been a little slower than I had hoped, we've been so busy with regular production that we had to take some time off the build. And then expanding into a larger unit as well. The other side is about 75% done, all the intercooler parts & plumbing are here.





 
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Originally Posted by Stuart@VelocityAP
Very nice to see that there's room for the FMIC.

How is the availability of space to fit the turbos?

As for heat, does the later model V12V hood with vents provide any added cooling functionality?
 


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