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Superman07 07-31-2008 07:52 PM

"Used" DBS Up For Sale
 
I can't believe somebody would already be dumping one of these. Such a crime. :( Maybe it was a tester for a dealer?

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...=&cardist=2293

speedappeal 07-31-2008 09:00 PM

575 miles? That's still new, it has even been broken in. The DBS is a big improvement.

X50DAN 08-01-2008 01:52 AM

Hmmm......
 
MSRP on these initial cars is $268k; there aren't any options. 'Think this is a "flipper" trying to make a buck.

MrEdS4 08-01-2008 05:32 AM

That is only 8-10k over MSRP + Tax. For a car that was supposed to have a 2 year waiting list, that seems pretty cheap. It is a gorgeous car. Tough to believe it won't depreciate like every other Aston but I love it.

Michael 996TT 08-01-2008 07:31 AM

I've had several dealers say sales are down; tough on the newer high end market; used is full of low ball lookers. Your stable has probably droppped in value too (which sucks) ... especially w/new "improved" Italian models out about every 3-4 years. I'm thinking this DBS is a flip too. P-cars are totally tanking ... can not believe their SUV is outselling their cars !!! I just enjoy them and consider it entertainment expense.

jaymoney 08-01-2008 07:45 AM

There is a whole population of "renters" who buy these ultra-exclusive cars at debut knowing they're going to have them for a summer or a short period and flip them while the buzz is still hot. We saw the same thing with the first 997 gt3 rs and Gallardo SL cars. Really this is not a bad price, but I have to think that you could get a better color at the same price if you hunt the dealerships. I hear there has been some fall off on some waiting lists. I know there are car people who sprinkle money in deposit form every time they hear of a new cool car then move it to the next car when news hits. I'm sure there were deposits moving to Ferrari California or Audi R8 V10 and so on. Having driven the DBS, its hard to imagine a more overall satisfying car. The combination of looks, style, speed and finish is second to none. I've never driven a 599, but at double the price, I think the DBS is a bargain

Moogle 08-01-2008 10:59 AM

These cars are now selling FOR MSRP. The market has evaporated.

There are at least 6 new, untitled cars sitting at dealerships around the USA that can be had for immediate delivery.

Speculators are going to get burned for this one.

mdiez1 08-01-2008 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by Moogle (Post 1978090)
The market has evaporated. Speculators are going to get burned for this one.

I'm very happy they've come down. I hate flippers. That same car was at around 315k by the same dealer just a month ago. They scoffed at the idea of negotiating on the price. The offer would have still been considerably over MSRP. That dealer tries boldly to capitalize on the market, a bit too boldly. IMO, this car is not worth that kind of money, even at MSRP. It is indeed the best driving Aston today, but certainly not worth the premium over the DB9. There are some good moral dealers out there that will only sell their new cars at MSRP.

Red Devil 08-05-2008 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by jaymoney (Post 1977781)
I've never driven a 599, but at double the price, I think the DBS is a bargain

First let me say that I consider AM's a terrific combination of great style and sports-car like dynamics. Ferrari's & Porsche's are certainly more sporting, but that isn't necessarily of the utmost importance. The 599 is no where near twice the price of a DBS. I know waiting-lists and demand made for a number of 599's go for way over their 300-ish sticker, but I'd guess that's near over. I could be wrong b/c Ferrari's often defy all odds in the marketplace but that's usually reserved for their newest V8 car and their uber-performer (F40,F50, Enzo). Their 12-cylinder cars haven't fared all that well in the recent past, and the 599 will come down because it's relatively plain if not downright ugly. It does, however, drive like balls. It's a shame A-M's depreciate like mad in their first few years and then slow down. Anyone buying a new A-M better not sweat the money because it's going to be even uglier than before going forward. This DBS isn't a great color nor a great price. All too often dealers and re-sellers are unrealistic of the market and hold out for the guy with money who just wants one and doesn't really even care to see what else is out there or at what price. The hand-writing is on the wall in regards to the ultra-luxury segment/super exotics and while their will always be buyers, things aren't what they used to be when factoring in the "green" movement/attitudes of the very wealthy and the economy in general.

robbie 08-05-2008 01:33 PM

It's a feeding frenzy. Everybody who is anybody wants one and the opportunity is there for some to make a few bucks.

I remember when Bonds movie aired with the Vanquish, it was pushing north of $300k and there were buyers. Now, you can pick up a used 04 with less than 15k miles for about $110. Besides all the problems associated with the Vanquish, I still view it better looking than the DBS.

Diablo79 08-05-2008 03:34 PM

low bid
 
someone wake me up when the bid is at $175,000 hilarious

Benjamin Choi 08-05-2008 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by robbie (Post 1984234)
Besides all the problems associated with the Vanquish, I still view it better looking than the DBS.

agreed, would love an 06 w/ factory manual shifter

Superman07 08-05-2008 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by Diablo79 (Post 1984436)
someone wake me up when the bid is at $175,000 hilarious

How do you mean that? Your suggestion is the other end of extreme. MSRP on is $260k, so while I believe my original post is too low, I feel yours suggestion is well low.

jaymoney 08-05-2008 10:15 PM

The first four 599 cars on Dupont registry are 440K and up, close to double the price of the DBS. Everything depreciates eventually. The Ferrari people are following some scientology cult-like obsesion with unreliable cars. Most Ferrari dealerships insist that you buy an older car before you choose your new car. Then they insist you sell you car back to them to allow them to upcharge of 100k or better. The F in ferrari is for F-you. There is a happening at Aston now that they are free from Ford. The Prodrive influence is bubbling. Soon there will be no sacrifice to buy one. the depreciation will be consistant with anyone else.

Red Devil 08-06-2008 06:16 AM


Originally Posted by jaymoney (Post 1985039)
The first four 599 cars on Dupont registry are 440K and up, close to double the price of the DBS. Everything depreciates eventually. The Ferrari people are following some scientology cult-like obsesion with unreliable cars. Most Ferrari dealerships insist that you buy an older car before you choose your new car. Then they insist you sell you car back to them to allow them to upcharge of 100k or better. The F in ferrari is for F-you. There is a happening at Aston now that they are free from Ford. The Prodrive influence is bubbling. Soon there will be no sacrifice to buy one. the depreciation will be consistant with anyone else.

We all know DuPont is like Barrett-Jackson. I agree with you totally on the attitude of almost all Ferrari dealers and a lot of owners. It's a credit to the product that they have this following and they are the envy of most manufacturer's, if not all. Many people get turned off by the whole process around trying to buy a "new" Ferrari. Aston needs to be realistic about it's products and pricing, the same way everyone except Ferrari does. In the short-term and maybe forever, no one else is going to be able to do what Ferrari does. There's not much A-M can do to limit the depreciation of it's vehicles except to offer the best product they can at a price that doesn't "gouge" the first-time buyer. Pricing products like the Rapide in the 250+ area will do almost nothing for the company b/c they'll move so few. Many buyers, even those with a lot of funds behind them are value shoppers. Make a great product at a good price and you'll move the units. Don't overprice yourself tying to compete with somebody else who is out of your league. No matter what anyone says, Ferrari is out of everyone's league (I'm not endorsing the product as best, just buyer's attitudes), and whether or not that's rational is anybody's guess.


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