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Originally Posted by captain Greg
(Post 4732550)
I was a bit frustrated yesterday and abused my clutch, think smoke pouring of the back tires at a set of lights ( how I kept it straight was a miracle) I may need this twin set up soon if I do that again but I thought it was reverse gear that wore them out,? Always seem to be riding the clutch in reverse?
how does the twin set up handle that?
I would not be happy with noise or rattles. In an Aston the last thing you need is to stand out like a turd with a Box of rattling bolts,.. that is not cool.
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You need a clutch when you drop it and the tires don't spin. ;)
If you had the traction control on you were definitely roasting the clutch. It will let the tires break but it is trying to prevent slip by applying the rear brakes, wearing both the rear brakes and the clutch. If you ever want to roast the tires make sure to turn the nannies off first. Dropping the clutch from 4K isn't that much more disc wear than a firm launch, It locks up fast and all the slip is transferred to the tires. This isn't going to win you any races but if you need to throw up a Double 0 smoke screen that's the ticket. If you want to win the race, don't race a Pagani ! - and don't drop the clutch, feather it, roast it, from 4K [or more] only giving as much compression as the tires stay on the edge of grip. A hole shot. You want them hooked up as much as possible while applying the maximum amount of power, and you have to use the clutch to modulate that. You're not going to beat any fast cars by engaging at 1.5k and smashing the pedal. You have to wear it to beat your GT, or an SS, and you'll need the reaction and a perfect hole shot to beat an SRT8. A hole shot will definitely cost you clutch life!! Just as leaving your nannies on will.
Nannies are a crutch for incompetent or lazy driving! There. I said it. - On the track it's so sophisticated it's the ultimate advancement in high speed traction followed by high speed aero. On the street, be a driver. You're not taking any corners at 110, but at 60 you can float the rear out an inch or 2 without the inside rear brake yanking on you, or you can throw it out a foot and drift. Loss of traction is the goal if I'm hitting an offramp hard, braking or accelerating. Although I don't drive it near as hard as I did when I first got it. It's got a new engine, why beat on it LOL
Riding a clutch in reverse is just natural backing out of any spot blind, you ride it until you know you're clear. But I ride it as much creeping forward with the parking sensors until common sense or the sensors tell me it's close enough to concrete. It's a clutch, you ride it for lots of reasons, the most gentle engagement of a clutch is still riding it at the point of engagement to get that smooth take off. You smell the clutch in reverse more as the airflow directs the clutch smoke into the cabin through the console/footwell, which is why they devised that box mod to stop it from entering the cab. Reverse is a taller gear than 1 so R is going to wear it a little more, and you generally creep with it more in R, none of us reverse as confidently as we drive forward LOL, and you smell it in R so you think it's far worse than 1, but it isn't.
There are no clutch rattles, the chatter is more like a groan and it's from all the springs. I get a hair of chatter out of the dead stock V8 clutch they replaced my VAP with, it's the springs. 5/6? in the stock, and double that in a twin plate. If you ever pick up a pressure plate shake it and all the springs rattle. So the sound resembles a groan - but it's really spring chatter. And I do have a quiet car. The first gen 4.7's are the quietest of all the V8V's, [by what I've read and understand], the 4.3's had louder stock exhaust and it wasn't till the S the 4.7 got louder exhaust. Stock it's plenty loud for me passing 6k at full throttle, but at 15 in a parking lot it's a quiet car, so the chatter is much more annoying, and where I always notice it the most..
