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Zettinger Oct 3, 2018 07:56 AM

looking at the new cars Aston released, nope not for me.

mto Oct 3, 2018 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by Logannz (Post 4741481)
I'd be concerned about buying the stock until sales numbers of the new Vantage are public, The company requires this to be a smash hit, and based on the reception so far I just don't see it. As mentioned above a DBS front end would rescue the thing but I doubt you'll see that for a couple of years at least.

Mate, very envious where you live. :)

I think manufactures somewhat "inflate" the sales numbers. Meaning, they consider the car "sold" when it stacks up at the port and / or at the dealers and still not sold the end customers. I love the brand but seems a lot of DB11s are on the dealer's lots. Vantages as you said, remains to be seen. The brand, execs, and products.are awesome. Bit concerned about trade wars, Brexit and the pound too. I know in the US, not easy to buy on the FTSE. Very stiff commissions too. For me, I'll wait until it shakes out a bit. It is speculation. Unlike BMW and Merc, for example.

James Bond carmaker Aston Martin gets a frosty reception in stock market debut
Business Insider

Daniel Craig as James Bond standing next to a vintage Aston Martin DB5 in the film Spectre. Aston Martin IPO'd in London on Wednesday. Shares were priced at £19, valuing the luxury car maker at £4.3 billion. After a small initial price bump, shares have fallen to £18.40. The performance underlines weakness in the London IPO market and ongoing trade war and Brexit fears in the auto sector. LONDON - Shares in luxury car maker Aston Martin dropped below their IPO offer price on the first day of Read the full story

brightoncorgi Oct 4, 2018 09:47 AM

How do I buy the stock now that the IPO has happened? I have an Ameritrade account. What is the symbol for the stock?

handyman2009 Oct 4, 2018 10:43 AM

From what I got it is only available on the London Stock Exchange

brightoncorgi Oct 4, 2018 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by handyman2009 (Post 4742374)
From what I got it is only available on the London Stock Exchange

Just emailed my brokerage firm to see how I would buy something on that exchange.

sf911c2 Oct 4, 2018 02:18 PM

well, IPO doesn't look to be well received...it's not Ferrari.;) I checked the online new vantage ads (USA) and there are 75 for sale. By contrast there are 35 used 2012-16 v8v coupes for sale. If the new vantage is the AM cash cow it's going to get ugly if sales don't pick-up..

brightoncorgi Oct 4, 2018 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by sf911c2 (Post 4742454)
well, IPO doesn't look to be well received...it's not Ferrari.;) I checked the online new vantage ads (USA) and there are 75 for sale. By contrast there are 35 used 2012-16 v8v coupes for sale. If the new vantage is the AM cash cow it's going to get ugly if sales don't pick-up..

Ferrari doesn't make it main income from selling cars... It's all licensing; that horse is worth a lot! Aston has aspirations to expand it self further into a lifestyle brand like Ferrari has. I think they're off to a good start. AM needs to be careful as Ferrari has F1 to as foundation, but Aston it's something different. They need make sure that "something" never withers or becomes less prestigious.

mto Oct 4, 2018 05:13 PM

QUOTE=brightoncorgi;4742368]How do I buy the stock now that the IPO has happened? I have an Ameritrade account. What is the symbol for the stock?[/QUOTE]
The symbol is AML. It is only the FTSE (London Exchange). Most US security companies do not purchase stock outside the US. So suspect Ameritrade does not.

It can be available through some international trading houses. So need to check. I know Citi and USAA do not. So just need to call the US-based global companies. When you find one, I was told there is a 40 day initial blackout period to purchase AML, and the security needs to be verified through I think regulations if the company sells to countries that are on a blacklist. The commission can be rather stiff in and out.

sf911c2 Oct 4, 2018 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by brightoncorgi (Post 4742456)
Ferrari doesn't make it main income from selling cars... It's all licensing; that horse is worth a lot! Aston has aspirations to expand it self further into a lifestyle brand like Ferrari has. I think they're off to a good start. AM needs to be careful as Ferrari has F1 to as foundation, but Aston it's something different. They need make sure that "something" never withers or becomes less prestigious.

~70% of Ferrari revenue comes from selling cars, 15% sponsorships & branding etc. I suggest you read the financials....

brightoncorgi Oct 5, 2018 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by sf911c2 (Post 4742478)
~70% of Ferrari revenue comes from selling cars, 15% sponsorships & branding etc. I suggest you read the financials....

Interesting, I thought it was a lot more and Ferrari is a customer of ours...

mto Oct 5, 2018 02:44 PM

I recall an independent study, Ferrari profited 80K for mass production cars. Porsche 20k for mass production cars. No idea for Aston. Of course, studies are studies, fwiw.

Be interesting to read 1Q AML’s financials. That to me, is time to consider any future purchase.

07sportspack Oct 5, 2018 03:15 PM

I'll own the car - not the stock.
The company has a lot to prove. I don't think they have the right approach to expand the ownership base....yet. We'll know more are we watch inventories and sales. They have had inventory issues in the past with lower production. Increased production doesnt mean automatic increased sales. I may be wrong but there are better investment stocks with less risk. The IPO market conditions are favorable so I understand the business strategy to "go to market" in a capital raise. Again, I may be wrong but is there a big demand for the new styled Astons?

sonies Oct 8, 2018 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by 07sportspack (Post 4742649)
I'll own the car - not the stock.
The company has a lot to prove. I don't think they have the right approach to expand the ownership base....yet. We'll know more are we watch inventories and sales. They have had inventory issues in the past with lower production. Increased production doesnt mean automatic increased sales. I may be wrong but there are better investment stocks with less risk. The IPO market conditions are favorable so I understand the business strategy to "go to market" in a capital raise. Again, I may be wrong but is there a big demand for the new styled Astons?

They were stupid to make it available only on the London exchange IMO

mjanis Oct 16, 2018 04:29 PM

Well it looks like the only people making money off of this stock are the short sellers according to Bloomberg. Stock price down 20% since Oct 2nd.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-carmaker-sink

V12Vin Oct 17, 2018 12:11 AM

Jalopnik took a swipe at the stocks today and also at Andy Palmer which I thought was a little uncalled for.

https://jalopnik.com/aston-martin-wa...-it-1829780386


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