Just got stiffed selling my Boxster?
So I just sold my used Boxster this morning, and the buyer paid with a stack of $20 bills. While the buyer counted out the huge stack containing hundreds of $20 bills, I got a little distracted while his girlfriend was talking, and it was a windy and rainy out trying to handle all the cash. The couple seemed very nice, but as soon as I walked back inside my office to recount the cash, I realized he only gave me $6160, not $6660 as we had agreed on. I went back out, but they had already left. I've texted and called his cell phone multiple times, but no reply at all. Does anyone know if I have any recourse? Or do I just chalk it up to being stupidly too trusting of a seller?
(fyi - this is not a flame thread, as it is not about any forum member, nor will I reveal any names. I just would like to know of any options I have. Thank you) |
so sorry to hear that. i will remember your story when i get to sell mine
JB in NJ |
Originally Posted by 996garage
(Post 4760603)
So I just sold my used Boxster this morning, and the buyer paid with a stack of $20 bills. While the buyer counted out the huge stack containing hundreds of $20 bills, I got a little distracted while his girlfriend was talking, and it was a windy and rainy out trying to handle all the cash. The couple seemed very nice, but as soon as I walked back inside my office to recount the cash, I realized he only gave me $6160, not $6660 as we had agreed on. I went back out, but they had already left. I've texted and called his cell phone multiple times, but no reply at all. Does anyone know if I have any recourse? Or do I just chalk it up to being stupidly too trusting of a seller?
(fyi - this is not a flame thread, as it is not about any forum member, nor will I reveal any names. I just would like to know of any options I have. Thank you) Did you leave a voice mail message on the buyer's phone? If not you should. If you have his address up to you if you want to visit him and talk to him. Maybe it is my previous years of experience at a rather young age of cutting grass and other yard work and delivering papers and dealing with cash but when money is being counted the 2nd coming couldn't distract me. In your case it might have been just an oversight on the buyer's part, but you are partially to blame for not being more careful. The rule is count the money twice, sign the title once. Unless you are successful contacting the buyer or he contacts you and you settle this amicably I think you just have to chalk this up to experience. Next time maybe you should meet at say your bank and if the transaction goes down you count the money in relative quiet and once you (and the buyer) are satisfied the count is correct then sign the title and hand over the keys and deposit the cash right away. (There's a risk that some of the bills may be counterfeit but if this is the case the buyer would probably balk at meeting at a bank cause he's going to be on CCTV.) |
Yeah, it's looks like a lost cause. Over the past 30 hours I've called, left voice messages, and text messaged him around ten times asking him to contact me about the supposed "honest mistake", but not a peep back from him. He was extremely responsive on calls/text prior to the sale.
I know the blame ultimately falls on me, but after selling around 20 used vehicles in my lifetime, I've never had someone ever swindle me on payment. Then again, I've never had someone try to pay me in $20 bills before either! The buyer mentioned he might drop the sale price that he reports to the DMV to $1500. I guess when I submit the Release of Liability and put the true selling price, maybe the taxman will be able to recover the $500 that he stiffed me on. |
Hope the 20’s weren’t counterfeit! |
Originally Posted by 996garage
(Post 4760907)
Yeah, it's looks like a lost cause. Over the past 30 hours I've called, left voice messages, and text messaged him around ten times asking him to contact me about the supposed "honest mistake", but not a peep back from him. He was extremely responsive on calls/text prior to the sale.
I know the blame ultimately falls on me, but after selling around 20 used vehicles in my lifetime, I've never had someone ever swindle me on payment. Then again, I've never had someone try to pay me in $20 bills before either! The buyer mentioned he might drop the sale price that he reports to the DMV to $1500. I guess when I submit the Release of Liability and put the true selling price, maybe the taxman will be able to recover the $500 that he stiffed me on. Did you give the buyer a receipt -- that he signed -- with the sales price listed? And keep a copy for yourself? Regardless when you submit the release of liability I'd list what you received even though it was short by $500 from what you expected. |
I did write out two copies of a statement agreeing on price for the vehicle in "as is" condition, that we both signed, dated and kept copies of. I was told this is more to protect the buyer, in case the seller tries to say that you stole the vehicle. Not sure if this is true, but I've always done this every time I bought or sold a vehicle.
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Originally Posted by 996garage
(Post 4761363)
I did write out two copies of a statement agreeing on price for the vehicle in "as is" condition, that we both signed, dated and kept copies of. I was told this is more to protect the buyer, in case the seller tries to say that you stole the vehicle. Not sure if this is true, but I've always done this every time I bought or sold a vehicle.
As mentioned, either do at a bank to verify the cash is good, or I always do wire transfers. You are lucky the $20’s weren’t fake. You never know with stranglers and even lose friends when it’s only about money. |
stiffed on a sale
Report the vehicle as stolen: he didn't pay the full price.
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Originally Posted by 996garage
(Post 4760603)
I realized he only gave me $6160, not $6660 as we had agreed on.
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Sorry to hear. The sad part is you know who the guy is.
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Very sorry to hear about that. Who comes to buy a car with $20 bills? Fortunately you were only shorted $500,
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Originally Posted by cairo94507
(Post 4781248)
Very sorry to hear about that. Who comes to buy a car with $20 bills? Fortunately you were only shorted $500,
Life's about tuition you just hope you don't have to pay too much -- looks like this lesson cost you $500. Mike |
What a ****** nozzle that guy is, if it was intentional...but ALWAYS COUNT YOUR CASH BEFORE YOU FORMALLY HAND OVER THE PRODUCT.
Your fault for not counting yourself. It sounds as if you're out $500, and he's out of integrity. With that said, I 'effing hate liars, thieves and cheaters. |
Do you think she purposely tried to distract you?
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