no more GTS's
 

they just took the build it feature for the GTS off the Canadain site. so, unless they re-introduce the GTS, they are no more.

in Canada about 3% were manuals and i think the US were about 1%. so, are they going to be collectable?

my dealer has phoned me 3 times in the last 2 months with people looking for a manual GTS.

Does anyone have any production number break down for the Cayenne?


Just as an example the Porsche 968 only had about 5,000 units built. Unfortunately, it kid a gets lumped in with the 944 world of over 160,000 units (not including the 951 and s2). Which ultimately keeps it's current collect ability fairly low.

All those Cayenne S and Cayenne models will do the same to the GTS and Turbo.

It would be interesting to know the actual numbers.

It would be interesting to see the production numbers

I see more Turbo's here than S's and I have seen only one or two GTS's. I think that certain GTS's and Transsyberia's will hold their value. There are so many of these out there that unless Porsche ****ed up on the new one by deleting the transfer case, few of these intial ones will appreciate.

I really want to see what the 2011 Cayenne does off-road.

Awesome car, but no way any Cayenne becomes collectible.

Many reasons why they may become collectible but I don't see it happening either. The depreciation is TERRIBLE. I think certain copies are going to be highly desired.

the manual V8's are going to number around 1,000 tops for North America if i remember the earlier numbers in Q2 2008 when they came out

that still strikes me as a pretty low head count for any Porsche

Very true. These things have the worst depreciation out of anything I've seen :eek:

I have an 08 GTS manual, tried going back to the dealer and swap it for 997 S and it's a joke what they want to offer to buy back. Collectable GTS..I'd like to believe so but unlikely...though at the rate it's depreciated I might as well keep it for 20 bloody years and see what happens

I bet it goes the way of VW thing........or the way of the 61-71 broncos.........imagine if it ever gets stylish to chop one of these down???? Beach cruisers :).............i think there will be a stodgy group of old collectors 40 years from now that will love these PIGs...

With seemingly every vehicle becoming automatic and manual luxury SUVs just about as rare as they come who knows. :) I don't expect it to appreciate now but consumer tastes may change where manuals really become "in" to own more for its rareness instead of the driving feel it provides.

I've noticed there has been a red on for sale for months here in Atlanta. Which leads me to believe that sadly the next GTS might be an auto :( if it comes at all.

continue to enjoy your manual GTS, but don't get carried away with it being a collectable.

even my club coupe at 50 counts still depreciates big time.

all Porsche these days are mass produced. While some of them may become "rare" (relatively speaking), they will never appreciate in value.

I think the GTS will be a "lower depreciating" model as time goes on. It'll likely never appreciate in value as a "classic" would (I don't think many cars will anymore, changes in racing rules has meant nearly the death of homologation specials, which are the real winners in appreciation).

This question comes up a lot about different vehicles that are sort of different, especially Performance SUVs. I don't think you're going to see much in the way of appreciation for nay of them, just that it will hold its value better than a normal vehicle over time. For an example look at the GMC Typhoon, it was 30k new, but you can buy one for 10k nowdays. Compared to a normal Blazer however, that's several times more expensive than what you'd pay for one, and the truck is nearing 20 years old. Most every Performance SUV forum I've been to has a thread dedicated to why they all think that they're going to have classics in a few years, and how they're going to get more than they paid for their trucks when they sell them, and it never, ever happens. If you're lucky (the Jeep SRT8 guys have been very lucky in this respect) you won't take as huge of a depreciation hit when you sell it. The best advice I could give is to just drive the truck because you love it, not because you think it'll be worth something. Enjoy the car, and accept that it's not a stockpile of gold and isn't going to be worth a ton more than you paid for it. Unless it turns out that Porsche was stuffing a lot of gold and diamonds in each GTS for no apparent reason.

That said, I like the GTS package the most, It's the most faithful to the ideas of Porsche cars, and I think it's the best overall version. Let's be honest, how many times are you going to use the Turbo's higher top speed or faster acceleration? The GTS isn't a slow car by any means, and it handles better. It's more fun to throw around a back road or a scenic road on your way to work. I personally think it looks better too. I think it would be a bad idea for Porsche to not make a new GTS, but I doubt we'll see it for a year or two. They're bringing out a new model, and for now they'll want to push the normal versions and the hybrid. Perhaps in 2013 or so they'll bring out the GTS as a mid cycle refresh model or something, look at how long it took them for the original model to come out.

I think they will still offer the manual transmission on the GTS solely because it gives them the bragging rights. While it may not sell in high volumes, its offering brings people in, and makes people look at it more seriously for being the only SUV that does offer it.

I hope that if/when the new GTS comes out, they do as good of a job on it as the previous one. I liked the integrated exhaust tips from the previous version, though i do understand the benefits of a more conventional exhaust setup. And while the new body looks fantastic, the aero package just doesn't look aggressive enough, which I understand because 95% of Cayenne buyers don't want an overly aggressive Performance SUV, even Turbo buyers. They want power, refinement, and class all in one package. I want to be able to take my dog on a car ride that we can both enjoy around some twisty roads, I don't mind paying for this with a harsher ride, or body work more likely to get trashed if I take it off road or come up to a curb too fast or something. Plus I like aggressive looking body kits that are still clean and not over the top ;)

Keep in mind, this is all just my opinion, I have no knowledge of anything inside Porsche, I just look at things and try to understand how/why things happen. I could very well be totally wrong and they will make the GTS an add on package for the S, or it could never be brought back as Porsche pushes its "intelligent design" style with hybrids and such.

i wan't under the illusion they would increase in value - by collectable i think they will likely perform like the titanium edtions - they depreciate somewhat less and tend to sell much faster when they hit the market.

anyway, i agree that whatever you think, the key is to enjoy. i treat it like my antiques, look after them well but use them. if they get a bit marked, no harm as they still get enjoyed!

Yeah, I worked on a guy's Corvettes, he had a 64 and a 66... and drove them both! Pristine quality, totally restored and absolutely gorgeous. I dunno that I'd be able to drive those, I'd be scared.

He was a wrencher too, I have huge respect for that guy.

i dont think the production number alone can't determine if the car is collectible or not.