'11 C or CS
A CS with pdcc and PTV WILL perform better minus the acceleration than a CTT without those options or will at least feel like it is..... Margionally.
I would still rather have a lesser model highly optioned with performance and goodies than a higher base model.
I would still rather have a lesser model highly optioned with performance and goodies than a higher base model.
Ok this is exact thing happened to me when I configured a CS and was actually above a base model CTT - the only reason I made the jump was because a lot of the things I wanted were in some ways standard on the CTT. So I would make sure to get the optoins you want first and then worry about the power later. There are lots of ways to get more HP/Torque out of these engines that you can add on later or even in your build (exhaust etc.).
Joe
Joe
Me too. IMO, Jace has ordered the perfect Cayenne. A turbo powered one that with PDCC, PTV and PCCB. I shudder even thinking what the ride quality and brake pedal feel would be like. Bravo Jace.
Pepper09tt, thank you for those kind comments on my post. GBX, have you test driven a pepper yet ? Check out the 18-way seats. The sculpted bolsters of the 18s may not be everyones cup of tea as it can be too snug of a fir. I personally love the look and feel of the 18s. With the second row seat the middle occupant can be subjected to some discomfort again related to the deeper side bolsters of the 18s (see picture).
I've always loved p-cars with sport seats though!!Get the CS and sacrifice a few of the "nice" options. Get the PASM and PTV. Pdcc is nice but id get the PTV over pdcc if needed to choose.
You can get a VERY nice CS for mid 70's to 80's and the v8 will run at lower rpm at higher speeds and be comparable to mpg.
I have the v8 in my GTS and it's great.
You can get a VERY nice CS for mid 70's to 80's and the v8 will run at lower rpm at higher speeds and be comparable to mpg.
I have the v8 in my GTS and it's great.
**Last question guys. Are the paddle shifters worth it or will i regret not having steering wheel controls? Trying to make this car as sporty as possible since i'm used to driving sport coupes.
Last edited by GBXSport; Dec 22, 2010 at 07:10 AM.
I ended up getting the multi wheel but wish I went with the sport wheel. I am not that impressed with the functions on the multi wheel, and the design of the ****pit allows you to reach the PCM/buttons easy.
Pros of the sport steering wheel: Nice sporty look given the aluminium trim and real paddle shifters (not toggle switches). If someone can confirm if the steering wheel is thicker than the MF steering wheel then that is a plus IMO.
Cons: Loss of the heated steering wheel option and the multifunction which is probably not that big of a deal)
I recently drove a X5 loved the beefier feel and the heated option. In the Cayenne you cannot get both. It is one or the other. That is not good.
Cons: Loss of the heated steering wheel option and the multifunction which is probably not that big of a deal)
I recently drove a X5 loved the beefier feel and the heated option. In the Cayenne you cannot get both. It is one or the other. That is not good.
I never drove a C or CS only turbo bc going from a GTS I knew I needed more, but I think the turbo wheel is both thicker
and heated. Not 100% on this. I know it's definetly thicker than my GTS with thumb groves.
and heated. Not 100% on this. I know it's definetly thicker than my GTS with thumb groves.
Last edited by Jace; Dec 22, 2010 at 10:38 AM.
Hi,and kudos to w00t-w00t for another detailed and insightful explanation
I have never driven a Cayenne with either PDCC or PTV,but have driven a base 2011 Panamera with the same 300hp V6 as the base Cayenne
My DD being a 997tts i was not wowed by the acceleration
but still found the power acceptable
and actually enjoyed driving it.
Get the base Cayenne with PDCC(and your other options)and you will buy into the safe,dependable and fun world of Porsche
Best wishes to you and your family

I have never driven a Cayenne with either PDCC or PTV,but have driven a base 2011 Panamera with the same 300hp V6 as the base Cayenne
My DD being a 997tts i was not wowed by the acceleration
but still found the power acceptable
and actually enjoyed driving it.Get the base Cayenne with PDCC(and your other options)and you will buy into the safe,dependable and fun world of Porsche
Best wishes to you and your family
The panamera's V-6 is Porsche's own engine. It is supposed to be smoother, more responsive and "satisfying". But be mindful of the fact that the transmission in the Pana is the sporty PDK and the Cayenne's VW-sourced V-6 is teamed with a more conventional automatic with torque convertor the Tiptronic made by Aisin, a Japanese company which is still considered to be very good but probably not as good as the PDK. I love the PDK.
These are tough choices and configuring a car takes effort, patience and research. I drove a loaner C while my CT was in the shop. While the loaner was newer, I was astonished by the different trim levels. Certainly, the base C was better than a Ford Explorer but not by much. Perhaps I am spoiled but even the electronic readouts are superior on my aging CT.
And everytime I stepped on the gas--well, I just laughed.
It was "cute,"
but I didn't feel safe in it.
Often I have called upon all 450 HP of my car to get me out of an accident.
It's amazing how much variability there is between these trim levels. They really are, as Porsche says, "different models" and should be regarded as such.
And everytime I stepped on the gas--well, I just laughed.
It was "cute,"
but I didn't feel safe in it.
Often I have called upon all 450 HP of my car to get me out of an accident.It's amazing how much variability there is between these trim levels. They really are, as Porsche says, "different models" and should be regarded as such.
C, CS or CT
Since my wife has refused to let me rebuild the engine in my current car (200K miles), I’ve been in the market for a quality SUV. I just replaced my wife’s car with an Infinity M37x and while at the Infinity/Jaguar/Audi/Porsche dealer picking it up, I strolled around the lot and saw this snappy ’11 Cayenne. Now a Cayenne was never on my list as I never liked their looks.
So, I took a closer look and noticed the price on the sticker. I was thinking; “Who in the world needs a 500 HP, $120K Sport Utility Vehicle? Must be towing one big boat.” The alert salesman noticed my expression and explained the Cayenne comes in a range more competitive with the Lexus, Mercedes and BMW we’d been looking at.
So, I got hooked into looking to see if a Cayenne would fit in. Soon found out this car is a horse of a different color; options, options and more options. The first and foremost option to decide was a C, CS or CT.
The CT was ruled out for several of reasons: a) with the Infinity purchase our car fund couldn’t cover it; b) if I wanted an expensive sports car, I’d get the 911 and last but not least c) my wife said no way in h….
The choice between the C or CS then became an options play based on the budget. Basically, what would fit after tax and license under $70K. It ended up being a well equipped C, or a minimal CS.
In addition, I had the same concern about the 300 HP C even being tolerable? Also, it’s got a VW engine. When I was hot rodding cars in the 60’s, the cool mod was to put a Porsche engine in a VW bug. The other way around was inconceivable, sacrilege, etc..
So, we took a road trip to a large Porsche dealer who had about ten ’11 Cayenne’s to look at and test drive. They also had a bunch of earlier models as well. Two purposes for the trip were to validate a C’s performance, and look at all the different options possible in the other Cayennes.
After driving a C, I found it perfectly acceptable around the town and on the interstate. Granted, it doesn’t slam you back in the seat when flooring the pedal. But, hey, it’s a Sport Utility Vehicle. The competitors didn’t either.
As for the VW engine, the dealer did a fairly good job of convincing me that to compare the C engine with the 36 HP VW bug pieces of junk engines was apples and oranges. Hope so, because I settled on preferring a well equipped C over a minimal CS. I always buy and hold for a while and want to enjoy the car even after years.
Bottom line for those without unlimited funds;
The C: I think the C will fit the bill for most typical SUV drivers; i.e. running around town with the kids, trip to the grocery store, trip to grandma’s, etc. Probably will win the stop light - my car’s better than yours war. Anyone can lease a Lexus, Mercedes or BMW, but a Porsche.
The CS: If I had the funds north of $70/80K, I’d get the CS. Not because I need the 100 extra HP, not because it’ll look any better, or not because it’ll do any of the typical SUV things and better. But, because I’m a guy who just wants a V8 (guess where my wife sits with this one). One CS caveat though, if you do tow a big boat, this need could be a good justification.
The CT: Well if you’re in this league, just go buy it and keep it under 70 mph (ha ha).
FYI: I’m working on another post to go over the options I would choose, or looked at and wouldn’t choose. I’m adding the reasons for each choice as well. I find the “why” as important as the “what” in looking at other posts about what options folks chose.
Regards
Since my wife has refused to let me rebuild the engine in my current car (200K miles), I’ve been in the market for a quality SUV. I just replaced my wife’s car with an Infinity M37x and while at the Infinity/Jaguar/Audi/Porsche dealer picking it up, I strolled around the lot and saw this snappy ’11 Cayenne. Now a Cayenne was never on my list as I never liked their looks.
So, I took a closer look and noticed the price on the sticker. I was thinking; “Who in the world needs a 500 HP, $120K Sport Utility Vehicle? Must be towing one big boat.” The alert salesman noticed my expression and explained the Cayenne comes in a range more competitive with the Lexus, Mercedes and BMW we’d been looking at.
So, I got hooked into looking to see if a Cayenne would fit in. Soon found out this car is a horse of a different color; options, options and more options. The first and foremost option to decide was a C, CS or CT.
The CT was ruled out for several of reasons: a) with the Infinity purchase our car fund couldn’t cover it; b) if I wanted an expensive sports car, I’d get the 911 and last but not least c) my wife said no way in h….
The choice between the C or CS then became an options play based on the budget. Basically, what would fit after tax and license under $70K. It ended up being a well equipped C, or a minimal CS.
In addition, I had the same concern about the 300 HP C even being tolerable? Also, it’s got a VW engine. When I was hot rodding cars in the 60’s, the cool mod was to put a Porsche engine in a VW bug. The other way around was inconceivable, sacrilege, etc..
So, we took a road trip to a large Porsche dealer who had about ten ’11 Cayenne’s to look at and test drive. They also had a bunch of earlier models as well. Two purposes for the trip were to validate a C’s performance, and look at all the different options possible in the other Cayennes.
After driving a C, I found it perfectly acceptable around the town and on the interstate. Granted, it doesn’t slam you back in the seat when flooring the pedal. But, hey, it’s a Sport Utility Vehicle. The competitors didn’t either.
As for the VW engine, the dealer did a fairly good job of convincing me that to compare the C engine with the 36 HP VW bug pieces of junk engines was apples and oranges. Hope so, because I settled on preferring a well equipped C over a minimal CS. I always buy and hold for a while and want to enjoy the car even after years.
Bottom line for those without unlimited funds;
The C: I think the C will fit the bill for most typical SUV drivers; i.e. running around town with the kids, trip to the grocery store, trip to grandma’s, etc. Probably will win the stop light - my car’s better than yours war. Anyone can lease a Lexus, Mercedes or BMW, but a Porsche.
The CS: If I had the funds north of $70/80K, I’d get the CS. Not because I need the 100 extra HP, not because it’ll look any better, or not because it’ll do any of the typical SUV things and better. But, because I’m a guy who just wants a V8 (guess where my wife sits with this one). One CS caveat though, if you do tow a big boat, this need could be a good justification.
The CT: Well if you’re in this league, just go buy it and keep it under 70 mph (ha ha).
FYI: I’m working on another post to go over the options I would choose, or looked at and wouldn’t choose. I’m adding the reasons for each choice as well. I find the “why” as important as the “what” in looking at other posts about what options folks chose.
Regards
I test drove the C, CS, and CT and ended up purchasing the C.
I had the trim painted body color, lights smoked out, Turbo II wheels installed with new tires and added tint.
Turbo bumper, skid plate & rear plate are on the way. Just needs paint & install and my C "looks" better than most CT's on the road.
I took the difference between the C & the CT and bought a Ford Raptor & modified it:

In the end both cars modified cost me around 120k.
I think I did the right thing...for me, I would take my 2 vehicles over a single CT or PT or 911T
I had the trim painted body color, lights smoked out, Turbo II wheels installed with new tires and added tint.
Turbo bumper, skid plate & rear plate are on the way. Just needs paint & install and my C "looks" better than most CT's on the road.
I took the difference between the C & the CT and bought a Ford Raptor & modified it:

In the end both cars modified cost me around 120k.
I think I did the right thing...for me, I would take my 2 vehicles over a single CT or PT or 911T




