I am on my vredestein set 275/45 19.
Thinking new set.
So far, thinking of conti extreme dws 275/45 19.
Recently started looking at:
Nitto motivo same size click here
Nitto nt420s same size click here

Anyone on here used them and if yes, what were your observations about cornering, grip and durability?

If used count is dws how long did they laser you with what type of driving?
Thanks

 

I've got the Conti Extreme DWS's on my Subaru STi and LOVE them!

They have maybe 20K miles on them and show barely any sign of wear. Grip and corning are really good for an all-season tire.

 

I'm on my second set of Conti ExtremeContact DWS. It's a great tire for the Cayenne. I'm running 275/40 20.

 

I was hoping to get review of longevity from cayenne turbo owners, as the tire wears different or each car. Anyone use any of the above on a CTT and can comment on longevity?
Thank again .

 

I just replaced my old continental extreme contact last week after 30k miles. The rear tires where gone, I really like how they handle. I did not look elsewhere, I'm really happy with them.

08 cayenne turbo.

 

pirelli scorpions are great too.

 

What kind of driver do you consider yourself when it comes to driving habits:
1. Normal, no hot stuff
2. Mostly normal with occasional hot spirited turn or two
3. Spirited cornering and sometime drag here an' there
4. Spirited cornering and spirited overall
5. Siht, the g-forces put my ***** in the muffler!

Where u from in tx, I'm from SW Austin

 

Sorry, I meant cross contact.

As far as the questions go;

1. I drive aggressively or spirited at least one or two days a week, I have a f430 for more crazy driving kind of stuff... Lol

I live in El Paso but spend some time in San Antonio TX. ( almost once a month )

But where I really enjoy my cars is in Colorado and New Mexico.

 

Last Friday. New tires and powder coated wheels with autumn black.

 

I don't think you'll find that the tire wear between a Cayenne S and a Cayenne turbo are dramatically different. The cars are very close in terms of weight. My Cayenne S has the same wheels, suspension, brakes, etc. as the turbo. It had the same tire options as the turbo from the factory. The additional power of the turbo might apply if you're doing burnouts in the parking lot, but it won't matter much other than that.

As I'm sure you know, the Cayenne S and turbo were equipped from the factory with ultra high-performance, summer-only tires. Winter driving requires the use of dedicated winter tires, and that's a topic for another thread. If you're looking for longevity, then you may have to sacrifice some performance to get it. Soft summer tires simply don't provide long tread life. All-season tires are nice because you can drive them in most conditions, but they compromise in all conditions. They'll get you through, but they will never excel. This tradeoff might be okay for you. Using non N-spec tires is another option you can consider. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but you have no guarantee that your Cayenne will perform the way the engineers and designers intended it to perform. N-spec tires are designed to provide a very specific performance profile.

Here's a quick rundown of my tire experience (excluding my dedicated winter tires):

1. Continental SportContact 4x4 N1. These were my OEM tires that were installed at the factory. They provided excellent grip, but they were noisy and they were totally shot by about 21,000 miles.
2. Hankook Ventus ST RH06. This was my first (and last) experiment with cheap tires. The performance was poor compared to the Contis and the noise level was horrendous. They lasted for roughly 30,000 miles.
3. Continental ExtremeContact DWS. I put this tire on my car hoping to improve over the Hankooks. Where I live, you can get snow 10 months out of the year, so a proper summer tire doesn't really make sense. I found the DWS to be a very good all-season tire. The grip isn't quite the same as the Sport Contact 4x4, but the longevity is much better and they are whisper quiet right up until the end. My first set lasted about 38,000 miles.
4. Continental ExtremeContact DWS (set number 2). Similar experience to the last set. I've got about 25,000 miles on this set and they are running strong.

I've typically always run N-spec tires on my Porsches, but the DWS is an exception. It's a better option for me.

Cayennes tend to have a little bit of negative camber, like other Porsches. As a result, they wear on the inner edges. Rotation helps, but it doesn't eliminate this issue.

Ultimately you have to balance the following issues and make your decision:

- Price
- Known performance profile
- Longevity
- Dry performance
- Wet performance
- Cold weather/snow/ice requirements

You're the only one who can decide how to balance this for your car, especially if you want to maximize things like longevity that weren't one of the design inputs for the Porsche engineers.

 

That was an awesome write up Dennis!

 

This. Putting correct size N-spec (275/40/20) tires on my CTTS was a game-changer compared to the non N-spec tires that were mounted on it when I bought it. I won't go back.

But if you're looking for a lesser performing (than a N-spec) all-season tire, then the Continental DWS would get my vote. I've had them on my wife's ML550, and have been very satisfied with them for what they are.

 

ciaka,

Why the change? Is there something you did not like about the vredestein tires? I bought a set for my 08 CTT, but I really haven't pushed them yet?

 

I love the Vredestein tires. Their grip is just something else, even in the wet (should really say especially in the wet). Stick to ground like spiderjizz to a wall.

The only reason I am looking at other tires is to compare their performance and longevity. The DWS tires have much higher tread wear rating (540 UTQG). The only thing is that one cannot compare the rating from one tire make to another (as these numbers are not standardized between all tire makers).

So I want to see how the DWS do on my car. As Dennis said in his post, choosing tire is a very personal thing, since your driving habits, what you are willing to spend, what you are willing to gain/sacrifice during the decision, will all play into the final choice.

I was hoping to get some rough data from y'all on the DWS tires, as well as on the Nitto tires, which I just recently saw available in this size too.

As of now, I am still wiling to try in the fillowing order:

1. Conti Extreme contact DWS
2. Vreds (same as what I have now)
3. Nitto NT420S - almost at level with #2)

Still fishing for first hand experience especially on the Nittos.
I know what I saw from Vreds, have decent idea on durability for DWS (assume about 30Kmi life with semi spirited riding), have no info on Nittos yet.

 

Which Vredstein's have you been running? When are you driving in Colorado? I agree that there are very few places where driving is anywhere close to being as varied as Colorado driving. But, if your Colorado driving is Spring, Summer or Fall, then a tire recommendation would be different then if you're coming west for skiing. I have run several tires over the years on my two Cayennes and am currently driving on Pirelli Scorpion Verde All-Season and they have been great. Super quiet with superb traction in all conditions and great wear (600 UTQG).