Smoked Detailed - Major correction, Gloss It put to the test
 

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I started with a scrap hood that I use to test products on. The finish was already clean so I used fine grade steel wool followed by a stiff bristle carpet brush to induce heavy swirls marks, marring and some fine scratches.

The finish looked like this after. (I labled the center tape w/ sharpie in my handwriting to show that the side I corrected was in fact as trashed as the other)

Left side will be corrected Right side will not

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You get the idea of how bad the finish was

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I took a quick reading to make sure I had enough clear to work with

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After a thourugh IPA wipedown and inspection with the Infratech I thought I may have been a little to "aggressive" in marring the finish and that it would need more than machine corretion, perhaps wetsdaning.

I decided to begin with Gloss It Extreme Cut on a 6.5inch Lake Country purple foamed wool

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After working the panel with slow passes at 1500rpm to my suprise the finish looked like this, a very good amount of defect was removed but some deep swirls and RIDS still remained along with holograms

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I used Extreme Cut one more time, this time bumping the speed up to about 1700 on the Makita hoping to work out those deeper RIDS with teh PFW. After this step the majority of defect was gone and it was time to move to a less aggressive pad and polish.

I used Gloss It Evolution cut( a milder cutting polish) with a new Edge 3K CCX 8" cutting pad)

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After this stage the finish looked like this

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Just about all the defect was gone at this point, now onto refining the finish and polishing out any last fine swrils

I chose to use Evolution cut with a green CCX 8" polishing pad from edge for this

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Nice write up Smoke.

What was the hood from? What car and year?? just curious how hard or soft the clear coat was.

I'd love to see Gloss It put to that same test on an extremely hard clear like a C5 or C6 Corvette, VW, or Audi..... or you can just wait for me to do it as soon as I get my hands on some, but that won't be for at least another 2-3 weeks at the earliest.

Again nice work.
Josh

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Thats crazy! I just received my gloss it products and I am about to do a full correction on my 56 T-Bird, so expect a write up with my findings. Great to see what machines, speeds and pads you used for this correction test.

I have a 2001 Z06 hood (blue) and a 2001 BMW 330Ci hood (silver) also I have two Porsche tops for my 04 911, one a black and the other yellow. I need to do some work on all these parts and looks like Gloss-It will be the ideal product. This stuff look amazing and its going to be nice to get rid of all the current products I use and not have to worry about multi-steps from zaino.

Great write up and great photos!

Sounds great. What pads will you be using?

I just talked with Rich of Gloss-It and he is going to be sending me the same pads that you used in this write up monday.

I normally use 3M & Meguiars pads, but I really want to try exactly the same pads that you used.

This is all new to me as far as paint correction with an orbit. I have always used either the Porter Cable 7424 or my Cyclo. I am very excited to get these pads from Gloss-It and start to try to accomplish what you have shown in your photos.

Keep the write up and photos coming as I am learning a ton just from you.

To be honest, I don't think you're going to get the same results as he did since he was using a rotary and you have a PC and Cyclo.....

PC and Cyclo will not give you those results. You'll get decient results but not like you would if you were skilled with a rotary.

Josh

Josh is correct. My first polisher was a Flex and I really liked it but I always felt that I could use a litte more power for heavier correction. I found that with a rotary I was able to use less aggressive products and yield better results. Foe example I never realized how versatile 106ff was until I used it with my Makita and saw what kind of correction I could get with varying pads.

Now the Flex is considerably more powerful than a PC or UDM but IMO nothing comes close to a rotary. No vibration and polishes breakdown super smooth and more completley. I, like so many others was affraid to use a rotary for fear of buring a clear but if you just do some practice beforehand and realize its limits you will be fine.

I am just as good with my Makita than with my 7424 and cyclo. I also have the flex, and I like all the machines. I only break out the makita when I have to remove heavy sand scratches and really deep swirls. I like to use the 7424 and flex mostly to do my paint correction and finish up with my Cyclo.

Just good to see how others are using the Gloss-It polishes and Makita and newer pads for correction. Will have to do some testing with mine when my Gloss-it pads come in.

cheers...

Can someone breakdown for me the "advantage" of the Maktia over say the PC 7424 in regards to the rotary issue? I've been an avid PC guy for awhile and have seen the Cyclo's at work as well. Recently, I've detailed a few cars with deeper scratches and couldn't help but wonder if there was a better machine that didn't take as long.

The Makita is a rotary polisher meaning it spins in only one constant direction(counter clockwise) where as the PC is a dual action polisher meaning the pad spins in a random orbit, almost like a gyrating effect.

With a rotary you can achieve much higher levels of paint correction and defect removal, in about a fraction of the time. When using a rotary the polish breaks down super smooth and more completely because of its single direction orbit and added power, the difference is night and day. Think of the PC as being a Honda and the Makita as a Porsche turbo . Note that rotary polisher speeds are in RPM and dual action speeds are in OPM(orbitals per minute)

BUT the downside to a rotary is that you can actually cause damage to the paint finish if its used incorrectly. A common mistake people make is called "burning the clear" which basically means they generated to much heat with the polisher and the pad burnt away a piece of clear coat, buring a clear coat is not fixable unless a respray is done. Another common mistake which is super common among unprofessional detail shops that is actually fixable is holograming. Holograms happen when the buffer is moved across the surface to quickly or set at a very high speed,a gumed up pad and other things can cause holograms as well.:D

This is a basic outline of the use of a rotary polisher. Hope this helps.